Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.

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Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.

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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.

January 2, 2013 at 10:22 pm

(January 2, 2013 at 8:35 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: The answer you will get is that God is beyond our comprehension and that all we can ever know about God is what God reveals to us through certain individuals he chooses to use for the purpose. God is the big boss and he gives the information on a need to know basis as God defines it not us.

This characterization of god is at best unflattering considering the idea of an all powerful creator, particularly when one considers his chosen emissaries.

To me, it is much more reasonable to conclude that religion is nothing more than thousands of years of tradition passed down by those with a certain zeal for power. The idea of god and the promise of eternal torment is nothing more than a crowd control mechanism.

Your basic argument is that god is unknowable, but I can know him through others chosen by god. What is the litmus test for a false prophet?

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Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications. - by Mark 13:13 - January 2, 2013 at 5:06 pm

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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications. - by Mister Agenda - January 3, 2013 at 4:38 pm

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