(January 3, 2013 at 2:44 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:Brian37 Wrote:so your end goal is to try to convince us that a god is possible.I'm not so ambitious although it would be nice if i could, no I would like you at least acknowledge the possability and maybe explore where that would lead for you and maybe even try an experiment and ask God if he exists to come into your life.
Brian37 Wrote:If you are going to quote scientists just admit you do believe in a god and you want science to prop up your particular pet deity. Otherwise don't bring science into it.It would be silly of me to expect science to prove the Existence of God when I have stated clearly that there is no way anyone can prove or disprove Gods existence given the nature of GOD but why should an Athiest not allow me to use science where I can to support my points?
Brian37 Wrote:"Mark 13:13" unless I am mistaken that is a bible verse isn't it?yes
Thank you for exposing your intellectual cowardice. If you are going to say "it would be nice if you Brian37 would ask God to come into your life" then why are you dodging what you believe by trying to say "I'm not trying to convince you". When I have something I think will help someone else I expose them to it and argue for it.
If I hold a position I defend it and I do not beat around the bush about it like you are here. But that is what believers have to do to sneak their superstition in through the back door.
NOW, you think I am being harsh for no reason. Not true. When I say "intellectual cowardice" I am saying for your own benefit, not mine, you need to be willing to face your position instead of dodging it or dancing around it and be willing to admit when you are wrong.
Our species however has a majority, throughout our species evolution, tend to lean to going with what feels right rather than test it to see if it is actually true.
Now, it has been way too long since we have known what DNA is which puts a damper on claims of virgin births. We also know what happens scientifically after death which puts the idea of a 3 day old dead body in the trash can of bad claims.
So it boils down to asking yourself, NOT ME, but yourself.
What is more important to you "going with what you believe because it makes you feel good"
Or, knowing the truth even if it does not match up with your wishes?
The first is what you are doing and hardly impresses me. Muslims and Jews also like what they believe. And the Egyptians liked believing that the sun was a god.
Otherwise if you had something, you'd at the patent office and have a Nobel Prize in science and could actually make an argument that would convince even the likes of the scientists words you tried to hide behind to pretend we don't know that you do have an invisible friend claim.