(January 3, 2013 at 4:12 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote:(January 3, 2013 at 4:04 pm)Faith No More Wrote: What makes you so certain that no one here has done that before?
I'm far from certain, I would actually believe that its likely many have come out of some form or religious background and through some process or other lost faith. But i don't believe that it can't be regained and ( don't start screaming at me every time I mention Bible ) there are several stories in the bible where Christ for whatever reason made some people work a little harder before he helped them. Even the chosen people had to endure 40 days in the desert before they got to the promised land.
If you don't want us screaming about your bible quotes then don't use them. No one is forcing you to post at this website. If you have evidence, which you think you do, then have at it. But we kick the tires here and if the heat is too much for you, then maybe this is not the right place for you. Don't torture yourself if you are uncomfortable.
We would suggest that if you are feeling uncomfortable about us criticizing your claims, then maybe you need to examine what you believe. It never occurs to you that maybe you got it wrong.
Asking us not to criticize your claims would be like playing an NFL game and only allowing one team to have the ball. Quote the bible all you want but we are still going to respond to that with "circular reasoning".
You don't blindly become a Muslim merely because a Muslim quotes the Koran, so don't ask us to do that either.
We really are not treating you any differently than anyone else. So, either jump in and take the heat(we will not hate you for defending claims we don't find credible) We will not like it much if you waste your time complaining instead of debating. You do yourself no good and you will simply waste your time and ours.
We do want you to stay, but that will not come at the cost of expecting us to simply fold and say "isn't that nice". If we cannot be honest with you and you cannot be honest with yourself, then you really are wasting your time here.
I thought humanity was hurt by believing the sun was a god for so long. I think humanity was hurt for believing the earth was the center of the universe for so long. I think it still hurts humanity today to use religion to oppress women.
If we never questioned social norms we never would have left the caves. So please, stay if you wish, but don't expect us to treat your claims with kid gloves. Kicking the tires is how humans learn. And the claims that can take the shit kicking are the ones most likely to become universal to science and humanity, much like the computers you and I type on.
