RE: Dear Mark 13:13 & Catholics
January 4, 2013 at 1:12 pm
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2013 at 1:25 pm by Mark 13:13.)
(January 4, 2013 at 10:42 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:(January 4, 2013 at 10:23 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote:
LOL she is saying nothing more than you are saying anyway so the only rationale I can think of for posting it is that She can say it better or that she is scarier than you and on both counts I agree but nothing has changed.
Don't know your bible do you?? And you are very selective of what you hear and read... confirmation bias at it's best dear Markus.
So what were you expecting me to do? Do you think I haven't heard so many of these arguements before in some way shape or form. Did you expect me to type out a full refutation here and if I did would it change your mind or would we be doing the old burden of proof again.
And anyone whose can say " ..well I guess the idea of the Holy Spirit as an idea is absolutely ridiculous. The Holy Spirit is someone who impregnated Mary against her will so I guess the Holy Spirit is a rapist, how fantastic is that he raped a teenage girl, that's umm super awesome there Holy Spirit.." and you ask me to re read the bible based on what this Girl say's displays she knows more than me.
She has already displayed a complete lack of understanding for what the Holy Spirit is as regards Christian belief and describing it as capable of raping someone when it is incorporeal ( Lacking material form or substance.) and also implies it was rape because it was against Mary's will when the Bible clearly reads "And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her." the summary Mary's says it's OK.
LAME, REAL LAME. on so many different levels.
(January 4, 2013 at 10:41 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(January 4, 2013 at 9:43 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: OH I know what I am and I know better than anyone its not a pretty picture so sticks and stones. But my primary reason to stay will not be ARROGANCE though there are times I can be arrogant ( i make no apologies for being human and imperfect) , my primary motivation will be HOPE, even if that HOPE is that I may cause some new members or even old not quite so sure of their position to keep questioning it. Of course if you guys are worried I might succeed then then don't tolerate me , KICK ME out, until then I'm here, enjoy it
I find it funny that the one thing our Christian visitors rarely do is try to live up to the standards of their founder that they all seem to agree on as top-notch. We know you've thrown out the 'give all your belongings to the poor bit' (clearly a metaphor not meant to be taken literally), but turning the other cheek, loving your enemy, not casting the first stone...it's rare to see an internet Christian who even pretends to try.
Frankly, one who merely shows integrity and forthrightness in their posts is a refreshing change, and the best way to earn our respect.
When I realize I can't support what I'm saying, I don't have to weasel. If I still think I'm right despite the fact that I can't articulate a cogent defense of my position, I can say that. Just because someone out-argues me doesn't mean they're right, I'm entitled to have a think about it before I change my mind. So are you.
You are almost as good as me at generalising ( not one of my endearing traits ) but your assuming that all those points about Christian Living are not always on my mind and that I don't often consider what judgement I will have to face as someone who sits in comfort, well fed and safe in the west living of a world society that ensures my comfort at the expense of so many. If you believe that I somehow feel superior in any way to you is actually wrong if anything by my own belief I may be worse of than you in the end. But I continue to live my life as best I can within the limits i'm set and hope. So just because you can't find a Christian that can live upto Christ does not mean we are wrong or that we are not trying just that we are human.
