Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.

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Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.

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RE: Did Dawkins and Tyson say that and what are the implications.

January 5, 2013 at 1:30 pm

(January 5, 2013 at 1:17 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(January 5, 2013 at 8:34 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: well it doesn't explain or prove anything but it does force some valid questions , can something exist without a cause? this does not in itself lead to God but it's interesting to explore where it leads.

The Cosmological Argument fails on all levels.

It does not force valid questions because it is based on invalid logic.

Just to begin with, the CA contains the fallacy of composition and an equivocation fallacy.

i will take your word for it for now as I not planning to use it yet ; there may even be a more upto date version that avoids the pitfalls you mention but its not the thrust of my exploration at the moment. Smile

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