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sex before marriage
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RE: sex before marriage
Your experience seems to have been different from at least one other persons experience. It's not so much an issue of being "chewy" as an issue of explaining - in a fantastically and wildly demonstrative way- that your experience of islam and temptation is clearly no indicator of islam (or it's ability to suppress temptation). In other words, something -other than islam as it's own entity- is at play, when one muslim screws a little boy and another does not. Islam doesn't appear to be very consistent in achieving the effect you describe (and then attribute to it, and to fellowship within it)...and I submit that the difference between you and said boy fucker is a personal one, and not a difference of the level of fellowship or immersion in islam.

(January 6, 2013 at 12:40 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: To the contrary, what is done in accordance to the teachings of islam reflects islam. So violent or degrading acts that are not taught in islam does not reflect Allah or islam. Thus if you were truly making a stand for justice, you wouldn't call what is just as unjust.
Similarly, what is done by muslims -in spite of- the teachings of islam also reflects on islam - most directly, on islams inability to compel it's adherents to act according to what they continually claim is the will of god. On the same token, is there something that happens in the world that is not the will of god? Something, not being the will of god, that then wouldn't reflect on that will...please, do tell me, muslim, what happens that god does not will. Perhaps a short list?

This is such a common dodge it's become one of the most annoying ones, to me. The faithful are always willing to grasp for whatever "the good shit" is ( or whatever they seem to be of the opinion the good shit is anyway)...but always desperate to excuse their faith and their god for "the bad shit". No dice.
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sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 3, 2013 at 11:03 am
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 3, 2013 at 12:24 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 3, 2013 at 12:34 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 3, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 3, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 3, 2013 at 12:58 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 3, 2013 at 1:03 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 3, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Annik - January 5, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 5, 2013 at 3:11 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 3, 2013 at 1:36 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 4, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 4, 2013 at 9:25 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 5, 2013 at 5:08 am
RE: sex before marriage - by CapnAwesome - January 4, 2013 at 11:53 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 5, 2013 at 6:23 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 5, 2013 at 3:46 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 3:58 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 8:53 am
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 5, 2013 at 3:39 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 5, 2013 at 9:00 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 5, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 5, 2013 at 3:28 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 5, 2013 at 9:39 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 10:27 am
RE: sex before marriage - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2013 at 12:29 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:42 am
RE: sex before marriage - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: sex before marriage - by KichigaiNeko - January 6, 2013 at 1:08 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 6, 2013 at 7:25 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:05 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:09 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:15 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:30 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 11:35 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:54 am
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 6, 2013 at 11:57 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:00 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by paulpablo - January 6, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:25 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 12:26 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:29 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:35 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 12:38 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:43 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 12:53 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 12:52 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 12:56 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 1:13 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 6, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 6, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 2:47 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 6, 2013 at 11:48 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 6, 2013 at 11:52 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 7, 2013 at 12:25 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 12:55 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 7, 2013 at 8:27 am
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Darkstar - January 8, 2013 at 11:49 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 8, 2013 at 6:09 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 8, 2013 at 7:14 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 8, 2013 at 7:16 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Darwinian - January 8, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 8, 2013 at 8:18 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Darkstar - January 8, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 8, 2013 at 8:47 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Minimalist - January 8, 2013 at 7:22 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Al-Fatihah - January 9, 2013 at 7:31 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Cinjin - January 8, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by Mister Agenda - January 8, 2013 at 8:20 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Grand Nudger - January 9, 2013 at 1:27 am
RE: sex before marriage - by Brian37 - January 9, 2013 at 8:17 am
RE: sex before marriage - by ThatMuslimGuy - January 9, 2013 at 5:52 pm
RE: sex before marriage - by The Magic Pudding - January 9, 2013 at 9:48 am

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