(January 6, 2013 at 12:43 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Similarly, what is done by muslims -in spite of- the teachings of islam also reflects on islam - most directly, on islams inability to compel it's adherents to act according to what they continually claim is the will of god. On the same token, is there something that happens in the world that is not the will of god? Something, not being the will of god, that then wouldn't reflect on that will...please, do tell me, muslim, what happens that god does not will. Perhaps a short list?
This is such a common dodge it's become one of the most annoying ones, to me. The faithful are always willing to grasp for whatever "the good shit" is ( or whatever they seem to be of the opinion the good shit is anyway)...but always desperate to excuse their faith and their god for "the bad shit". No dice.
Response: If saying that islam can be defined by acts that are not taught in islam, then non-muslim ideologies can be defined the same way, according to your own logic. Therefore, the raping of a boy by a muslim is also a reflection of your own ideology. So you have no argument.