Burden of Proof

[Mark 13:13]

I have always argued with Theists that very point that I can understand why Athiest's can logically hold their view and we have to accept that

Yes, because logic does not support the existence of a god. Nice of you to see that.

but it doesn't mean we can't change their mind maybe not on a collective level but maybe at an individual level.

How would you change the mind of a person that requires demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid logic to support our beliefs, without valid logic or demonstrable evidence?

And it does'nt mean that Theist are devoid of intelligence or logic to reach their position unless you take it as default that logic is the ultimate tool of the intellect and ultimately the only arbiter of truth.

What other method, besides demonstrable evidence and valid logic, do you feel is the best at determining whether something is true (or at least likely to be true)?

When someone makes extraordinary claims (alien abductions, Bigfoot, Jinn, vodoo, etc, etc) , what algorithm do you apply to them to determine its likelihood of being true? I'm willing to bet it is the same as we use when someone makes the claim that a god exists.

I by myself have no other method, but of course I can hold within the framework of my own system that I can pray the The Holy Spirit allows them to be open to persuasion and that being human logic will not be all they would understand and what would be the tipping point I don't know maybe just seeing that it may have some value in their life at another level be it emotional or psychological and through experience of that value being realised they come to believe as I do without the over riding need for proofs. Not everything needs to be proved true or false and depending on the situation then use appropriate tools.