Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge

[Drich]

you need to go the atheist meetings more,

There are no atheist meetings, shithead.

...or maybe you buddies just haven't told you...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/08...32911.html

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/christandpo...-atheists/

http://www.examiner.com/article/british-...ist-church

You guys are douche bags.

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I kinda like it when a theological discussion ends in name calling. It usally means you can no longer question or attack the biblical principle, and all your left with is the one who brought you the message.

Those who can do, those who can't call people names. ;P

Or maybe some people just can't deal with your irrational support of immoral acts.

The insults are not what I am addressing. It is the contradictory and sparratic nature of the insult. If things were as you said then they should be uniformed, and the hate would be focoused on "My irrational support of immoral acts." As it is Minnie tells me A, You tell me B, and Ryhme thells me both A, and B. Which covers all the bases, meaning the content is no long being discussed, but a foolish attempt to attack my character.

Which again tells me you all have run out of topical content, but still feel the need to dominate the conversation. That is an indicator that your theological questions have been answered to the point where you can no longer argue them, and only your pride is left to be saciated.

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How can you say that genocide is "not what God wants" when there are so many examples, in scripture, where he directly calls for it?

Because we as Christians do not have any examples or instruction in the NT to call us to kill a certain people. That and when the dark ages church took it upon themselves to do this very thing, God stop supporting the church and even sent a man to divide it. Allowing us to ultimatly worship God has He orginally intended.


I repeat, from Matthew:
In order to 'repeat from matthew' you must IGNORE What Christ says about fulfillment of the law. Ignore or selectivly maintain a willfull ignorance of what fulfillment of the Law means.

I think Jesus is pretty unambiguous about which commands carry over. Either Jesus is a liar, the Gospel communicates a falsehood, or you are trying to change the rules to avoid roasting with the rest of us. There is no way you can spin the above passage to purport that some of the rules no longer apply.

If your interpertation of Mt. 5 is correct then how do you explain the appearent contradiction between the commandment "Honor your Father and Mother." and what Christ said in Mt 10:37, luke 14:26, where Christ says:"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."

Will you foolishly argue that their can be honor in hate? or will you question your understanding of mat 5?

The law serves only one purpose. It is not provide a rule that we all strive to up hold as a way to earn righteousness before God. the purpose of the law is to show that all have sinned.

I have seriously tried a dozen different approaches to indicate to you how fucking deluded these three sentences are, and I've come up empty.

Those "deluded sentences" Are THE CORE OF CHRISTIANITY. The BIBLE SPELLS It Out. Christianity is unlike every other religion on the planet as it is NOT a list of rules to follow to earn Heaven. It is conviction that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, and that all need to seek attonement for sin. allowing us to love God with all of our being.

This is why your religion needs to be destroyed, root and branch. This is some seriously dangerous insanity.

wow. do you not see the irony in this statement?

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Sorry Cinjin doesn't have the same ring as Sorey cinny, but if your getting your feelings hurt i will stop.

Pathetic attempt at a deflection, and not even close to what I said. Please try some reading comprehension:

... the word cinny has a certain implication of friendship ...

I wasn't deflecting anything. You made the observation that we weren't friends. I thought that maybe you got your feelings hurt because i will not call you friend.

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What happened? did you just see away out of a bible study or were you afraid to put your version of christianity up against the bible?

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I just don't feel the need to continue speaking when my sentiments have already been expressed. But then, I get the idea that the very concept of remaining silent when you have nothing to say is pretty alien to you.

Another reason I didn't say anything further is that it's fairly pointless to continue a debate with someone willing to contort their position into any shape they need it to be in order to continue talking.

But you did speak when you had nothing to say topically. That was the REASON I challenged you. For your comments went from the absolution of the OT law to jumping on minnie's Christian hate bandwagon. If you have nothing more to say the simply stop all together. I make it a point NOT to beat or kick you all when I leave a post that you do not respond to. I did it in this thread at least twice, by other memebers. If you reamin on this web site long enough you will notice that my efforts will match your own. If you wish to bully and call names, I can do the same. If you have a serious question, I am willing to put in the time to give a serious response. If you have nothing more to say, then I will respect that.

Now, would you care to illuminate us all as to whether the bible is contradicting itself with regards to the old testament, or just whether you are contradicting yourself? Or will you just crow over some imagined victory again?

This is known as begging the question. Care to rephrase?