Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge

[Drich]

Actually we just think you're silly.

You post nonsense post after nonsense post and don't seem to actually have any points at all.

For example, you post something you believe, we post something that refutes it, and all you do is just flip your belief around and post something else.

Then providing an example of this should be very easy for you to do. It would seem to me this would be a goto response to refute someone rather than inconsistant name calling.

It's tiring reading your posts because literally there is no point in having a discussion with you, and i remember why talking to you was so tiring on af.com. You are about as disingenuous as they come.

Again if I am the MOST disingenuous person you have ever come across then it should be easy for you to site examples, and legitmatly shut me down.. Rather than just alluding to generalities and appealing slandor. Again show me show all of us. Prove your accusations.

You take your interpretation of the bible/scripture as the only interpretation,

Show me where I have said this. Show me where I said My interpertation was the only one. I KNOW This to be slanderous remarks that maybe true about most christians, and you assume it is true about me as well. Allow me to burst you bubble. I have stated in this very thread that No one denomination (which are derived from various biblical interpertations.) has a lock on 'true christianity.' I have even gone so far as start my own thread and discuss this for 11 pages on this web site, and if I am not mistaken was discussed on the af.com website as well.

Your appeals to slander are falling apart. Did you see how that was done? I made an assertion and then backed it up with EVIDENCE. Oh,The Irony Here! the Christian who uses Evidence to trump something an atheist wants people to take on blind faith.

present it as fact (no evidence) and then go onto make a whole myriad of more nonsense up on top of it (see: post to FTR)

don't be afraid to be specific (unless you just making stuff us) Again, show me and allow me to clear things up for you.

Also, this statement makes literally no sense either:

This seems like a legitmate request so note I am approaching it differently than how I addressed the first 1/2 of your post.

"The ancient book offers freedom from authority...sin....not that we wot sin anymore"

Please explain:

1. How we can be under a divine authority for eternity and yet be free from all authority

I Did not say we are free from divine authority. I said we are free from Authority. Meaning we are free from the acts, rules, traditions, the heirarchy, everything that 'religion' and religious practices traditionally provided for us. We are free from the works and law of religious practice as a means to earn righteousness (or the state of being/quality of soul we must have to enter Heaven/be in God's presents.) Works are meaningless in of themselves. If we are no longer bound by religious tradition or ritual to cleans ourselves from sin then that makes us free from the authority of those who would administer these rights.

Which is how I can say that the church of the Dark ages is not Christ. as such has no say in who enters heaven and who is going to Hell. That 'judgement' is not for those who worship to a given formula to decide. that desision remains with God. He will decide who believes in His Son and Who is just going through the motions.

Christianity is not something we do. It is who we are at our cores.
Or so says Christ. I would go with what he says over that of a 1500 year old man who was known for wearing funny hats. That said if your into that, then that is between you and Christ.

2. How we can be free from sin but keep sinning.

Paul struggled with this very same issue. (And if the Apstole Paul could not stop sinning then what hope do any of us have?)
You REALLY Need to real All of Romans 7,(http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=ERV) but here is the part that directly answers your question: Remember Paul is speaking to the Church at Rome about Himself.

The War Inside Us

14 We know that the law is spiritual, but I am not. I am so human. Sin rules me as if I were its slave. 15 I don’t understand why I act the way I do. I don’t do the good I want to do, and I do the evil I hate. 16 And if I don’t want to do what I do, that means I agree that the law is good. 17 But I am not really the one doing the evil. It is sin living in me that does it. 18 Yes, I know that nothing good lives in me—I mean nothing good lives in the part of me that is not spiritual. I want to do what is good, but I don’t do it. 19 I don’t do the good that I want to do. I do the evil that I don’t want to do. 20 So if I do what I don’t want to do, then I am not really the one doing it. It is the sin living in me that does it.

21 So I have learned this rule: When I want to do good, evil is there with me. 22 In my mind I am happy with God’s law. 23 But I see another law working in my body. That law makes war against the law that my mind accepts. That other law working in my body is the law of sin, and that law makes me its prisoner. 24 What a miserable person I am! Who will save me from this body that brings me death? 25 I thank God for his salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord!

So in my mind I am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful self I am a slave to the law of sin.

I await your tangential and verbose reply with an orgasmic sense of disappointment.

You know in the furture if you have a legitmate question, you do not have to preface it with a slanderous attack. Just ask the question. that is unless you need to be taken apart line by line, to be made the fool publically. Or you could just send an PM if you do not want to be seen speaking with the enemy.. I do not keep a score card of who said what or who I need to get back at.