(January 12, 2013 at 2:32 pm)Drich Wrote: The act of killing has no intrinsic value in of itself (Man woman child baby deserving or not.) For Death is nothing more than a birth into eternity. What makes killing a sin is whether or nor God sanctioned the death or if someone took it upon themselves to kill outside of God's expressed will. Again the action of Rape, murder, genocide, smashing babies against rocks has no intrinsic righteous or unrighteous ascribed to them. What makes these actions sin/evil is when one does these things outside of the expressed will of God.
Can I just say, I genuinely hope that you never end up hearing voices in your head, with this sort of attitude. You'd be liable to end up one of those nutjobs going on god-sanctioned killing sprees.
It does, however, answer all of my questions regarding your opinions of morality. You're just into divine command: if god says it, it's okay and also morally good, no matter what it is. This makes it really hard to talk to you, because you've given yourself literally the simplest possible outlook on the world. It's like trying to debate a rock.
However, I do need to ask about your metric: If, in this case, I come to you and tell you that god came to me and ordered your death, would you be fine with that? If god appeared to you incontrovertibly, and tells you to kill your family, would you do it? Or, as your willingness to cherry pick from the bible would indicate, do you have some scale of right and wrong that doesn't require a celestial thumbs up?
Quote:Meaning, Morality= Self righteousness. If this does not answer your question then rephrase incorperating this defination of morality into your question.
No. You don't get to redefine words however you want and then expect that everyone else play catch up with your twisted-ass logic. We have a language for a reason: kindly stick to what words actually mean, rather than inventing new definitions to dodge the issue at hand.
Quote:God encompasses all that He has created, if you spend this life trying to put distance between yourself and God, then wouldn't an eternity in Heaven under His rule as His slave be worse? Hell is the seperation you seek from God in this life. How does the saying go, "Better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven?"
Then God's a disrespectful, sociopathic jerk. According to you, Hell's some form of respect for human agency, is it? Then why is it also a place of eternal, floridly described torment? Why isn't is a neutral zone where nothing outright bad happens to people?
Is this seriously your whole position on everything? Disagree with what's actually written down, present your own contradictory position without any form of credibility, and then expect us all to just accept it? I think I'm going to go ahead and say the Bible's the representation of your religion, not just what you say, thanks all the same.
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