Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge

[Drich]

Can I just say, I genuinely hope that you never end up hearing voices in your head, with this sort of attitude. You'd be liable to end up one of those nutjobs going on god-sanctioned killing sprees.

It does not work that way. any and all 'personal revelation' must first be verified in scripture. Otherwise the 'personal revelation' can be deemed not of God.

It does, however, answer all of my questions regarding your opinions of morality. You're just into divine command: if god says it, it's okay and also morally good, no matter what it is. This makes it really hard to talk to you, because you've given yourself literally the simplest possible outlook on the world. It's like trying to debate a rock.

As apposed to your model of 'morality?' where popular vote reigns supreme? You do know that is how the Nazis got away with killing millions right? Popular morality changes from person to person, culture to culture and generation to generation. It is an ever changing variable and as such can not ever truly be deemed a Standard.

However, I do need to ask about your metric: If, in this case, I come to you and tell you that god came to me and ordered your death, would you be fine with that?

I am fine with my death at any time. as far as God using you as my angel of death, then know if you have been given this revelation then come at night while I am alseep, otherwise you may find it 'difficult' to do what you have been tasked to do. that is unless you can show me in the bible where YOU have been given this authority over life and Death.

If god appeared to you incontrovertibly, and tells you to kill your family, would you do it? Or, as your willingness to cherry pick from the bible would indicate, do you have some scale of right and wrong that doesn't require a celestial thumbs up?

Just the oppsite It is the bible that would keep me from killing anyone even if I thought for sure God told me to. So, no you have it backwards. The bible trumps personal revelation.

Why do you assume that I would spend 10 pages appealing to the authority of the bible, EVEN in the case of the Catholic church and yet when it came to my own personal revelations, my 'feelings and experience' should trump the bible?

Meaning, Morality= Self righteousness. If this does not answer your question then rephrase incorperating this defination of morality into your question.

No. You don't get to redefine words however you want and then expect that everyone else play catch up with your twisted-ass logic.

they are not my definations sport. Read your bible.
It is the soceity yoou live in that has change the definations of words away from how God has used them to justify the perversions it wants to live in.

If we are having a Christian discussion, about the God of the bible then it is by the biblical definations we will use and choose our words.

Then God's a disrespectful, sociopathic jerk. According to you,

Which is what this life is all about. Making the desision you just made. Just remember yoour words when you receive judgement.

Hell's some form of respect for human agency, is it?

No, it is eternal seperation for those who do not wish to spend eternity with God.

Then why is it also a place of eternal, floridly described torment? Why isn't is a neutral zone where nothing outright bad happens to people?

Because like it or not you are a member of creation, as such whether you can admit this or not, you long to be apart of creation, as that was how you were designed. being torn away from what you long for, will bring suffering and torment.

Is this seriously your whole position on everything? Disagree with what's actually written down, present your own contradictory position without any form of credibility, and then expect us all to just accept it? I think I'm going to go ahead and say the Bible's the representation of your religion, not just what you say, thanks all the same.

Great over view of my work, now show me that what you said is indeed accurate. Show me where I disagree on what is written down, show me or rather ask me to show you to present the evidence to support what I have said. When/if I can't then know your statement here is correct.