(January 14, 2013 at 1:05 am)FallentoReason Wrote: Ephesians 4:21-24
21assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, 22to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, 23and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, 24and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.
Sounds like Drich isn't a True Christian because we all know True Christians who are born again don't desire sin.
Ask for your tithes back at the church. Snakeoil salesmen conned you man.
You do know That Romans and Ephesians were written by the same guy right?
You also know that I am not that guy. So for the 'thinking man' one verse does not cancel out the other. They work together in unison. For instance take another look at romans 7 14-25
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=ERV
Now look at your verse again. Paul knows and teaches the way we should walk, but by his own admission in romans 7 he knows it is not possiable to always walk that path. The key here is the seperation from what the mind wants to what the body wants. (Anyone who has stuggled with diet, smoking, drugs, or anyother type of addiction know it is possiable to want to do one thing but wind up doing the thing you hate.) For in this seperation, Even if the Body sins the mind can stay pure. Paul is teaching the ephesians how to have a pure mind. He is given them God's goals for us so our minds to not fall into loving the sins our bodies are bound to. this is the transformation He speaks of here and in romans as well. We are expected to change what we can (Our Hearts/minds) and seek attonement for the rest.
As far as being a True Christian i have never had any desire to be one of those. I simply follow Christ through the Teachings found in the bible. True Christians believe in all sorts of stuff that i can quite wrap my head around.