Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge

[Drich]

Call it whatever you want. It is an 'affliction' God made possible.

Actually no. God allowed it to happen Adam made it possiable.

Which God did on purpose. Or do you suggest that God was incapable of making humanity invulnerable to the temptations of sin?

No I agree. For Sin allows Choice. For if there was no sin there would only be the Expressed Will of God. With sin we have been given the ablity to choose God's expressed will or our own.

I'm not invoking the Greek idea of free will, but your own. We have the 'free will' to seek redemption from sin because God either could not or would not design us so that sin was never an issue in the first place.

Again by orginal design we were without sin. God gave us the choice to sin in the garden, and outside of the garden He gives us the choice of redemption. We did not always have sin, but we have always been given a choice.

Some behaviors defined as 'sins' are behaviors which are virtually impossible to avoid committing. They are behaviors hardcoded into human brains. They are also behaviors God is guilty of committing himself, which is especially hilarious when one considers the fact that one of the worst sins is supposed to be 'hypocrisy'.

When you you guys understand? The point is not to avoid sin, but to seek attonement for it.

Being 'free of sin' is another way of saying 'don't be the way God designed you to be'.

Again no we were orginally designed to be perfect, and we were for some time. We were designed to choose to either be with God or eternally seperated from him.

It is his fault we cannot shake them. He made this universe, didn't he? It's a rigged (or flawed) game, and telling us to 'atone' for it merely blames the victims of bad design.

Again it is not about avoiding sin it about being given the oppertunity to choose. Sin affords choice.

In order to choose we must have options. in this life we have been given the ablity to choose God's will for us or to remain apart from God. Don't think of it as sin in the traditional sense. Your choice to remain away from God is what this life and subsequently sin is all about. Sin is not nessarily evil, is is a willful expression to be outside of what God wants for you. At it's core Sin is a choice or option given to us.

Sometimes I can't tell whether I find your candidness about the nightmarishly psychotic nature of your faith refreshing or terrifying.

It is, what it is. Who am I to hide from or try and excuse what God has done? If He wanted this stuff to be unknown then He certainly could have lost the records long before I came along. No, this stuff is in there for a reason. That reason is to help you 'good' people to make a choice about God. In order to make a choice you must have a complete understanding of His nature. The only question is will you see how trivial judging God by a 'moral' standard is, and seek to understand why He did what He did, or will you stand behind the morality that allows you to live your lives justifing the way you want to live, and use it to condemn God?

All i can do is present the facts as they have been written, and try and share insight as I have oppertunity.

---

You do know That Romans and Ephesians were written by the same guy right?

Ephesians is one of the 7-8 pseudo Pauline epistles. Try again.

The rest of your post sounds like white noise to me unfortunately, but thanks for taking the time.

Romans was also written by paul, hence the question, and the comment. (If Paul wrote both He would not have contradicted himself simply because he was writting to a different region.)
http://www.abu.nb.ca/courses/ntintro/Rom.htm