RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 14, 2013 at 4:28 pm
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2013 at 4:38 pm by Brian37.)
(January 14, 2013 at 4:05 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(January 14, 2013 at 3:46 pm)Hoc est Corpus Wrote: I think the problem with this argument is that you are boxing God into a time frame. You are saying there is evil in the world - why doesn't God put an end to it? We are, however, assuming that God is real, and that he says he is who he says he is. This means that God has created space-time itself, and he is outside of time. I would argue that because God is outside of time, from God's point of view evil entered the universe and he defeated it at the same "time". How can you judge God while only looking at the past/present?
Or the option Hawkins put forth "A god is not required".
Does the ocean need Posiden to manifest into a hurricane? Does lightening need Thor?
It never occurs to the believer that a natural un cognitive "what" is what is going on and does not need a magical "who" to occur.
And I find it absurd to suggest we don't judge your book character you claim is real when it throughout that book judges us all the time. It's called hypocrisy.
See if you can spot the pattern.
"Allah is outside space and time so therefore you cant judge him"
"Yahweh is outside space and time so therefore you cant judge him"
"Vishnu is outside space and time so therefore you cant judge him"
"The force is outside space and time so therefor you cant judge it"
Or, how about using a little Ocham's Razor
Could it be that the simplest solution to why god claims exist is because humans can and do have vivid imaginations?
Think about why you reject all other god claims besides your own. Understand why you rightfully reject those claims then maybe you can understand why we reject yours as well. The only difference between you and I is that I simply reject one more god claim than you do.
(January 14, 2013 at 4:24 pm)catfish Wrote: [quote='Drich' pid='386065' dateline='1358193535']
How could this be true if i have openly admitted to be as sinful as anyone here?
I have said this at least 15 times in this thread. The only difference between any of you an me is i sought the attonemnt offered by Christ. That however does not make me any better or more deserving. Just compliant.
Yeshua didn't offer "atonement", he offered reconciliation. "No man may be ransommed..."
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I don't care about your magic baby zombi god myth written by tribalistic goat hearders. The Hebrews stole the Yahweh name from the polytheism of ancient Iraq.
Why do you think the Ugartic texts say the same thing as the bible "Let us make them in our image" In the Ugartic texts "Us was many gods and lesser gods making humans like them." The Hebrews stole that motif because they wanted to be the new political power.
Look dude, I really don't give one shit about your myth. You refuse to accept that ALL MYTHS are inventions of humans and simply get stolen from prior tropes, motifs and cultures.
Neither Christians or Hebrews were the first man made superstitions and they are not the only superstitions in the world today.
People like you are the reason idiots like L Ron Hubbard continue to start new superstitions. Gullible humans have always fallen for invisible friends, you are merely another.