RE: Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge
January 14, 2013 at 9:16 pm
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2013 at 9:17 pm by Surtr.)
(January 14, 2013 at 7:19 pm)Drich Wrote: Yes, God made choice. All of those things were needed to provide true choice.
So God was faking it when he acted surprised at their actions? He was faking it when he couldn't find them in the garden?
Quote:we have the option to choose to seperate ourself from God Even though God does not want us to seperate ourselves from Him.
Why would God give us the ability disobey him if it would only end in never ending suffering due to our perceived "ignorance"?
Quote:Why do you believe one needs to assign blame for choice?
God is omniscient and omnipotent, according to the bible. He knows what choices you will make and apparently has the power to stop your trip to hell.
But he does not. He puts no effort into it. It's like he picks and chooses people when they are born. "Heaven, heaven, fuck you, you're going to hell, hell" etc.
Quote:Because it seperates us from God. and if we Truly love God we would not want to be seperated from him.
So God caused us to do these actions because of the way he designed us? Is God playing a game with us? "I know you're going to sin, but I'm not going to stop you. You have to come apologize."
Quote:We are made this way, to give us choice.
So, if I'm raised in a Muslim country and taught all my life that Christianity is evil, I will go to hell and it is my fault, not the fault of God? If I find no convincing evidence for his existence yet live a great life, it is my fault when I go to hell? This isn't a fucking choice, it's a sick game by some malevolent creator.
Quote:Now, Finish your thought. The failure of Humanity was planned but so was the redemption of humanity was planned as well.
Why does he need humanity to fail? So he can watch millions die? Or because whoever made this story up needed to fill some space?
Quote:Not all do Hence the choice/sin you have been born unto. You have been given over to choose, That you choose is the purpose of this life, not what you choose. What you choose in this life will determine the next.
There is no choice. It's completely controlled and predestined. You were DESIGNED to make those decisions. And even if you weren't, God would know what you would do.
"Sin you have been born unto."
Why should I suffer for something I didn't do?
Quote:Because you fall short your only hope lies in attonemnt/grace.
Maybe that will happen.
Or maybe I'm just another toy, another puppet made to suffer forever by your evil "God".
I march against the Asagods
To bring the end of time.
I am pure and endless pain
And Surtr is my name.
See me rise, the mighty Surt,
Destroyer of the universe.
Bringer of flames and endless hurt
Scorcher of men and Earth.
To bring the end of time.
I am pure and endless pain
And Surtr is my name.
See me rise, the mighty Surt,
Destroyer of the universe.
Bringer of flames and endless hurt
Scorcher of men and Earth.