(January 14, 2013 at 7:19 pm)Drich Wrote: Yes, God made choice. All of those things were needed to provide true choice.
There's no such thing as 'true choice' when God is holding a gun to your head and will pull the trigger if you make the 'wrong' choice.
Quote:So we would ultimatly have the ablity to choose where Wanted to spend eternity.
There are millions of people, small children and infants and everybody in the entire world outside of Israel until 2000 years ago, who had, or have, no choice at all.
Quote:Seeing Banishment as a Harsh punishment is all a matter of perspective.
Suffering physical and mental torture for all eternity is more harsh than any crime any person could possibly ever commit.
Quote:Why do you believe one needs to assign blame for choice?What is to blame is the fact that God rigged the game against mankind.
Quote:Because it seperates us from God. and if we Truly love God we would not want to be seperated from him.
So, we should be sorry, even if there's no reason to be sorry, just so the Almighty Psychopath won't send us to hell?
Quote:We are made this way, to give us choice.
Then, there should be no punishment for making a choice.
Quote:...and? Now, Finish your thought. The failure of Humanity was planned but so was the redemption of humanity was planned as well.
Predestination renders the very idea of 'choice' invalid.
Quote: Not all do Hence the choice/sin you have been born unto. You have been given over to choose, That you choose is the purpose of this life, not what you choose. What you choose in this life will determine the next.
That didn't answer my questions, so I'll restate them: Why should I be sorry for breaking arbitrary rules? Why should I want a relationship with a God who makes rules I can't follow and expects me to atone for it?
Quote:Remember God and I ascribe to the might makes right philosphy. Because He is in power and has complete Authority His standards do indeed trump your own.
God's standards are no higher than that of stupid, violent animals.
Quote:Remember Judgement is not about moral philosphy or a eastern sense of enlightment.
No, it's about Stalinist totalitarianism: complete, slavish devotion to a cruel and evil despot, done out of terror and self-interest. And, as with Stalin, even total devotion probably won't save you.
Do you realize that all you are accomplishing is reinforcing everything about your religion we hate? If 'saving' us is your intent, you're doomed to fail.