Jesus, Least Fit Moral Judge

[Ryantology]

What gun? Hell? Where else can one go to seperate themselves from God. Again, for 1/3 of those created in Heaven they openly chose Hell rather than stay and serve. One persons gun is another's choice.

If it was mere separation from God, that would be one thing. It's the whole 'eternity of torture' thing that makes it a loaded gun.

You do not know that. The passage "No one comes to the Father but by me" Does not mean no one comes to the Father except though practice christianity. It means Christ will decide who goes to Heaven and who does not based on their Hearts.

How can people get to heaven through Jesus if they don't know anything about him?

do you honestly think you are strong enought to hold out for an eternity?

If you are right about everything, I intend to find out. If I suffer for eternity based on my antitheism, my antitheism would only be completely justified in the end.

So? Now what? will you take this perceived unfairness to your judgement and try and guilt God Into giving you a pass? Understand God does not have to make things fair for you. It is the way it is, and either you adapt and work with in the boundries we have been given or you will be cast aside. This is not only true of God, but in life. Things are not always fair, nor is it promised any where that they are supposed to be. Only the sheltered feel they are entitled to a 'fair' life. It is often times the entitled who get left behind by life.

What I intend to do is show why your God is unworthy of devotion and worship. If your God is unfair, he is unfair on purpose. So fuck him.

Do you not understand basic repentance? To Repent means to turn from sin. You seem to be confusing conviction and repentance. conviction of sin generally leads to repentance.

To 'atone' implies that I feel that I am in the wrong for being a sinner. And you cannot make a convincing argument why I should feel this way.

Again you are speaking from a very narrow perspective. Your 'punishement' is another's choice.

It is God's choice, apparently.

You made a huge leap how did you get to predestination from the offer of attonemnt Christ offers? Or are you trying to coast in on an old standby arguement hoping that it will work in what is being discussed here?

I'm interpreting your statement as an example of predestination. If I'm incorrect, then you need to phrase yourself better.

Not all are ment to.

That doesn't answer why anyone should.

Again Not all do. This life has not been provided to make you love God. It has been given to you to make up your mind about Him. If you feel God unfair after only 20 some odd years imagine how you would feel after an eon. Better to make your desision now than find out you will spend eternity serving one you hate.

Is this complete dodge your way of saying "no, I actually can't provide a single reason why this is something anybody should ever want to do"?

..says who? You? So trust the person who has no power or authority over the one who gave his son to redeem humanity? Right.

As I am not a fictional character, I am completely certain that I do indeed possess more power and authority.

But, even if I didn't, that doesn't make my assessment incorrect. The parallels between God's kingdom and Stalin's kingdom are obvious.

I am not here to save anyone, but to help you cement or change the choice you have made about God.

Is it really a choice? I can choose to ignore what the facts indicate, as you already do, but I can't force myself to believe a God which is not there, nor could I choose to devote myself entirely to a God whose behavior and rules are completely disgusting to me. When I was a believer, it was not my choice then, either, and my transition from believer to non-believer was not a mere change of mind.

Believe me, I am not an antitheist because I thought "hey, this is what I want to be". I am an atheist because no other option is compatible with reality.