(October 21, 2009 at 3:10 pm)chatpilot Wrote: rjh4 Christians back then and even to this day have been searching for secular evidence for the existence of Jesus outside of the gospels to further validate their beliefs and provide historical evidence to the unbelievers. Remember the synoptic gospels namely: Matthew, Mark, and Luke did not make their first appearance till about 70 AD (Mark). The other gospels are further removed from the time of Jesus alleged trial and crucifixion. The gospel accounts blatantly contradict each other on many of the so called historical accounts of the biography of Jesus. Also, when these gospels first made their appearances they were presented anonymously and did not get the names attributed to them as authors until the mid second century.
Then entire account of the life of Jesus as presented in the gospels are based on hearsay and not on established fact and they are not eyewitness accounts. There are currently no original copies of the gospels in existence and what we have are copies of copies etc. The gospels themselves are biased and meant to promote a belief in Christ as the messiah, the gospels are propaganda meant to proliferate the authority of the Christian church.
If you weigh the evidence honestly the evidence is against the existence of Christ. The scant secular evidence of the life of Christ is inconsistent with the life of such a man who purportedly performed so many wonders and was the source of such great exploits as feeding 5,000 plus people with a few loaves of bread and fishes. How could the disciples testify as to what were Christ last words or moments on the cross when the gopels say they all fled and abandoned him: Matthew 26:56 [But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.] Only the women stayed faithful and were with him till the end.
As stated above the very names attributed to the gospels as authors were forgeries attached to these books about 120 years after the alleged death of Christ.
You are trying to switch the subject. We were talking about the secular references to Jesus, particularly that of Tacitus. You said it was a forgery and I questioned you regarding your statements. Now you are merely ignoring my questions. You can ignore my questions if you want and you can certainly come to a different conclusion than me. It would be nice though if you would answer the questions that I asked, if you, in fact, have a reasonable answer.
