RE: question for muslims
January 15, 2013 at 2:41 am
(This post was last modified: January 15, 2013 at 2:43 am by Ari.)
(January 14, 2013 at 4:29 pm)ThatMuslimGuy Wrote:(January 11, 2013 at 4:51 pm)paulpablo Wrote: To recently converted muslims of non muslim families
Do you believe your ansestors who werent muslims are going to hell? do you believe allah will be kinder to you in heaven then say your grandad or great grandfather?
I can neither know nor comment on if they are in heaven or hell. As only Allah knows. Allah is the Most Merciful and The Forgiving so can choose to forgive any sin he wishes apart from the sin of shirk. Which is unforgiveable if a person dies in state of shirk. If my ancestors died in a state of Shirk. Then yes they are most likely in the hell-fire. But i can not comment on there deeds or there beliefs as i don't know.
If they are in Paradise. Then no. If they are in the Hellfire then they will be being punished.
What a disgusting thing to say.
Your ancestors probably knew very little about Islam (let's face it, it wasn't a very widely understood religion in the Western world just fifty years ago). To tell rational, open-minded people here that you believe your deceased ancestors, friends or family would be burning in eternal hellfire because they don't subscribe to your particular outlook on life is precisely why people have a problem with organised religion.
What is perhaps most laughable of all is that you said so yourself numerous times that you do not understand enough about Islam, in fact, you even said that Islam (or, the Koran/Hadiths) must be understood through the Arabic language which you do not speak. If you admittedly do not know all of the answers about your religion, let alone the afterlife, it's more than disappointing to jump to a conclusion of, "yes, they're burning in hellfire". The only thing worse than dogmatic belief, is people who believe and apply that dogma to those around them in a negative way whilst admitting they don't understand their religion. That sets a laughable precedent.
“It is always difficult to make the transition to a modern world.
I moved from the world of faith to the world of reason -
from the world of excision and forced marriage to the world of secual emancipation.
Having made that journey, I know that one of those worlds is simply better than the other.
Not because of its flashy gadgets, but fundamentally, because of its values.
― Ayaan Hirsi Ali
I moved from the world of faith to the world of reason -
from the world of excision and forced marriage to the world of secual emancipation.
Having made that journey, I know that one of those worlds is simply better than the other.
Not because of its flashy gadgets, but fundamentally, because of its values.
― Ayaan Hirsi Ali
