RE: Divine Revelation
January 18, 2013 at 10:48 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2013 at 10:50 pm by Drich.)
(January 18, 2013 at 6:04 pm)apophenia Wrote:
@Drich:
In your Message/Messenger thread, you stated that you wrote down the story of your encounter with this Angel/Messenger directly after the event. Do you still have this record? Would you be willing to share it with us? I ask this for a number of reasons. First, natural interest and relevance to the current thread. Second, it's important to examine various attributes of any supposed foretelling to determine how likely they are a result of normal processes such as cold reading and the Forer effect. It would go a long way toward establishing the credibility of your reports to have the specifics. Many "liars for Christ" tell compelling but vague stories that are made up just for the sake of persuading others to approach Christ; as always, the devil is in the details, and the lack of specifics tends to undermine the credibility of such stories.
Do you still have that record? What was the situation regarding the person who gave you $25k? And I'd still like to hear about the alleged story of you being told not to preach. Can you share that with us?
I have some old boxes in storage. If I still have the notebook I wrote everything down in it would be there. I'll see what I can find.
I have written about how we got our start in the past. I can fish it so here it is again.
In 01 just after 9-11 I lost my job to my boss's nephew, who had no experience. so i went to the competition and asked for a job, (I knew the GM) and as luck would have it he had just finished cleAring out his desk as well (He had been fired too.) so he asked if I wanted to go into business with him since I had the experience and an established client list. He said after 2 years he would make me a partner. 2 years came and went very quickly, and then one February he went MIA. For over a month. I kept working without pay till the credit cards and company accounts hit their limits. Then he came back 2 nd week of march, work through the month and disappeared in April for the first few weeks again. While working at a customers facility I was approached by a short fat old man who I had seen before but never spoken with. He introduced himself as the owner. Then he asked me WTF was the deal with the sparratic billing. He said he walked in this morning and their were 6 weeks of invoices on his desk all with the same bill date and consecutive invoice numbers.
He knows some of the repairs were legit because he remembers the break Downs. But they were not in the right order. I told him I did not know what was going on, but I would look into it. Then he asked if I could do a better job of billing if the company was mine. I said yes, and then he asked if I could still keep up with the work load and maintain the same level of quality control, and again I said yes. He asked how much would I need to get started and I just shot out some (what I thought were big numbers) then he said could you do it for half, I said if I had a truck to put everything instead of a shop.. then he told me to talk it over with my wife, and if could pay him back in two years it will be interest free. I spoke with her and she thought he wanted me to go on a "business trip" or something with him to some beach in the Caribbean or something Like that for the money. I asked her to come to our next meeting (at Denny's) and she asked why he was doing all of this. He said: "Dan was aman of integrity and knew this because he had others check up on my work and even tested me with some set up units, and we only fixed what was wrong even though we could have fudged a bigger bill." He went on to say that he knew my partner was circling the bowl and the current business was not going to be around much longer. He talked everything over with his wife and both felt lead to help us out. So on my second meeting with him at that dennys he wrote me a check for 25 thousand dollars, and called a few people and got me a crazy deal on a box truck from a leasing company to start out in. I paid back the loan I under a year, he set me up with another interest free loan for the second truck, paid in 6 months, and the rest is history. We as a company have literally doubled every year since the beginning despite what this economy is doing. I can't talk about details but the future looks even brighter. (Far greater than anything I could have imagined for my self.
I am not sure what you are talking about when you said you wanted to hear the story of me being told not to preach... Which time?
(January 18, 2013 at 10:01 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: From what you say Drich, it seems like empirical evidence should be available to show that God intervenes. For example, with the dreams, I'd like to see some scientific journals that show the test subject was being contacted by God. Whether it be that particles materialised in his brain, sound was being produced by God and his ear drums were picking it up.... whatever it is, YOU claim that the believer is being messed with in some way, shape or form.
So would I.
Let me know what you come up with.