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Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label.
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RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label.
(January 25, 2013 at 2:45 am)Golbez Wrote: It rejects religious dogma.
Not necessarily. Consider the Buddhists. Most Buddhists are atheist but they have religious dogma. Many paganisms are also atheist but have dogma. Think of the Raellians!

Quote:Therefore it values the absence of religious dogma. Which, I guess technically it's an implication, but the lack of appreciation of religious dogma suggests an appreciation for something more substantial, usually evidence and science.
And this is my point; you have to use supposition, assumption & inferrence to try and assertain someone's values. Why not try asking them what they do value, instead of guessing from what they don't/may not?

Quote:Although inferred, that implication has real value for me. I don't want to be lumped in with the mindless zombies that are some 80% of the rest of America. I'm happy to have a label that says "not part of the indoctrinated 80%."
Then why not find a label that also dissassociates you from the irrational atheists? Wouldn't that be more useful?

Quote:Technically, the label says no more. But I haven't met an atheist that didn't have a strong appreciation for science, or at least a strong sense of ridicule for the complete lack of solid evidence to suggest there is a supernatural creator.
I've met plenty. Irrationality is not a uniquely theistic trait.

Quote:I also like the idea of reappropriation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation#Religion
Indeed but disassociation is more powerful. For example, in the UK afro-carribean community, those who are most strident in their opposition to racism reject use of the n-word entirely and criticise those who use it for perpetuating negative stereotypes. In a 'community' as diverse as 'atheists', the group power of associative reappropriation is drastically diluted.
Sum ergo sum
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Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 19, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by pocaracas - January 19, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Ace Otana - January 20, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 19, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by pocaracas - January 19, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Aardverk - January 24, 2013 at 5:32 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by genkaus - January 24, 2013 at 5:57 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Aardverk - January 24, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Aardverk - January 24, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by paulpablo - January 25, 2013 at 12:04 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 19, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 19, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Angrboda - January 20, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 20, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Kayenneh - January 20, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 20, 2013 at 2:09 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 20, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by TaraJo - January 20, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 23, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 23, 2013 at 8:43 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Gilgamesh - January 23, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 23, 2013 at 9:09 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 24, 2013 at 1:31 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Ben Davis - January 24, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 25, 2013 at 2:45 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Ben Davis - January 25, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by paulpablo - January 25, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 12:24 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by naimless - January 25, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 1:57 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by naimless - January 25, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 2:20 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by naimless - January 25, 2013 at 2:25 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 25, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 26, 2013 at 9:04 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 26, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 26, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 27, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by paulpablo - January 26, 2013 at 3:41 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Aardverk - January 26, 2013 at 7:54 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 27, 2013 at 3:53 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 29, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 27, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Zone - January 27, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 31, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 31, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 31, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 8:42 pm

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