(January 25, 2013 at 2:45 am)Golbez Wrote: It rejects religious dogma.Not necessarily. Consider the Buddhists. Most Buddhists are atheist but they have religious dogma. Many paganisms are also atheist but have dogma. Think of the Raellians!
Quote:Therefore it values the absence of religious dogma. Which, I guess technically it's an implication, but the lack of appreciation of religious dogma suggests an appreciation for something more substantial, usually evidence and science.And this is my point; you have to use supposition, assumption & inferrence to try and assertain someone's values. Why not try asking them what they do value, instead of guessing from what they don't/may not?
Quote:Although inferred, that implication has real value for me. I don't want to be lumped in with the mindless zombies that are some 80% of the rest of America. I'm happy to have a label that says "not part of the indoctrinated 80%."Then why not find a label that also dissassociates you from the irrational atheists? Wouldn't that be more useful?
Quote:Technically, the label says no more. But I haven't met an atheist that didn't have a strong appreciation for science, or at least a strong sense of ridicule for the complete lack of solid evidence to suggest there is a supernatural creator.I've met plenty. Irrationality is not a uniquely theistic trait.
Quote:I also like the idea of reappropriation:Indeed but disassociation is more powerful. For example, in the UK afro-carribean community, those who are most strident in their opposition to racism reject use of the n-word entirely and criticise those who use it for perpetuating negative stereotypes. In a 'community' as diverse as 'atheists', the group power of associative reappropriation is drastically diluted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reappropriation#Religion
Sum ergo sum