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Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label.
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RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label.
(January 27, 2013 at 3:53 pm)Golbez Wrote: Truth

That which is considered to be factual or genuine.

Quote:Knowledge

That which is wholly believed to be fact, true.

Quote:Facts

Things believed to be indisputably true. Don't you love dictionaries and their circular definitions? Tongue

Quote:Evidence (again)

Information indicating that a belief or proposition might be true.

Quote:Existence

That which is.

Quote:And what do you think about the laws of physics? Once we understand the mathematical expressions in which the world operates under, say for gravity or motion, do you think those can be radically violated in our day to day experiences? (So avoiding for the moment things like Pulsars, which are fascinating freaks of nature.) I can't begin to understand your opening gambit, that everything anyone knows is incorrect. Ironically, that sounds like something you claim to know. And it surely sounds incorrect. But maybe I can't know that, because then it would be incorrect. So I'll just have to "feel it" then in my gut. And now it's true...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/episode...-play-dice

That's pretty much what I think of physics Tongue That we might well one day find that our entire understanding of them shatters in lieu of something that explains our observations even better.

Did you know: I know a great many things. I'm okay with simply knowing things usually, but I'm also usually ready to adapt to being wrong, allowing myself new knowledge. Sure, if I was extremely against using faith as anything but a starting point: I could not know anything, everything would be conjecture to me. Alas, I've a great deal more faith in the world than that Tongue

Everything anyone knows is incorrect because none of it can possibly be objective, ultimate truth cannot be observed by a subjective being, only assumed by that being, assumption of which would then be necessarily wrong.

It's funny how one's gut gets them into sketchy situations Tongue

Quote:Hypothesis

A supposition or proposed explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.

Quote:Conjecture

An opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.

^What a proper scientist should be doing, not a conclusion they outright know.

Quote:And I thought of another question. How do people learn information about our world through the process of science? What does that process entail? Basically - what is the scientific method?

People learn information through assuming it to be true, the scientific method being our 'best way' to find that which is true by introducing observations into an intersubjective realm where thus far results are verifiable or they are not.

The scientific method usually has all of these steps: make observation, ask question about observation, perform some research on the subject, construct a hypothesis, test via experiment, analyze results, form a conclusion, hypothesis is true/false according to experiment: report results, if hypothesis was false: rethink hypothesis.

Though it only ultimately needs these ones: observe, question, formulate hypothesis, test via experiment, analyze results and draw a conclusion, hypothesis is true/false: report results. But this shortened list leads to 'bad science' Tongue
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Messages In This Thread
Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 19, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by pocaracas - January 19, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Ace Otana - January 20, 2013 at 7:29 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 19, 2013 at 8:41 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by pocaracas - January 19, 2013 at 9:26 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Aardverk - January 24, 2013 at 5:32 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by genkaus - January 24, 2013 at 5:57 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Aardverk - January 24, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Aardverk - January 24, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 12:00 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by paulpablo - January 25, 2013 at 12:04 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 19, 2013 at 8:54 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 19, 2013 at 9:37 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Angrboda - January 20, 2013 at 12:50 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 20, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Kayenneh - January 20, 2013 at 2:01 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 20, 2013 at 2:09 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 20, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by TaraJo - January 20, 2013 at 11:55 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 23, 2013 at 8:35 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 23, 2013 at 8:43 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Gilgamesh - January 23, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 23, 2013 at 9:09 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 24, 2013 at 1:31 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Ben Davis - January 24, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 25, 2013 at 2:45 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Ben Davis - January 25, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 12:11 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by paulpablo - January 25, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 12:24 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by naimless - January 25, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 1:57 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by naimless - January 25, 2013 at 2:05 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 2:20 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by naimless - January 25, 2013 at 2:25 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 2:36 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 1:43 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 25, 2013 at 8:04 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 25, 2013 at 8:53 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 26, 2013 at 9:04 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 26, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 26, 2013 at 8:19 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 27, 2013 at 3:10 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by paulpablo - January 26, 2013 at 3:41 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Aardverk - January 26, 2013 at 7:54 am
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 27, 2013 at 3:53 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 4:55 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 29, 2013 at 8:30 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 27, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Zone - January 27, 2013 at 6:54 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 5:24 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 6:00 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 7:38 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 29, 2013 at 9:05 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 31, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 7:13 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 31, 2013 at 7:25 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 7:56 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Golbez - January 31, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label. - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 8:42 pm

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