Accepting/Rejecting "Atheism" as a label.

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I wasn't debating anything. I was clarifying my point of view. If you can't see the difference between those two things, I can't help you.

And look at you, busy refuting everything I say. Is it a wonder I can't see the difference between what you're doing and what you're doing? Objectivity, mate.

Fact is, on several occasions I explicitly said that I could be wrong, and acknowledged viewpoints alternate to my own, and didn't say that any of them were wrong. I simply said I prefer to view the world a certain way and tried explaining why.

Fact is you've misrepresented several things, but then considering that you believe in objectivity as it is applied to your life... you have stated exactly what they are, and I have therefore stated them retarded.

I've been demonstrating, if you haven't noticed

I already defined that. And I find it pragmatic (probably should have used that word instead of practical throughout my posts) to live as if objective reality if perceptible to humans.

Well, you've defined it poorly if you can state it to be one thing that is wholly separate from perpective and then applied it as one's perspective and then wondered why issue was taken when a second perspective is introduced and ALSO objectively true even if both stand juxtaposed (props on pragmatic, by the way).

First, by "such debates," I wasn't referring to all philosophical debate, rather debates about objectivity. To put it simply (maybe overly so, but it'll suffice): I have no interest at all in debating intersubjectivity vs. objectivity. You're the one that made a leap from that to telling me that I am "not interested in debates."

See... THIS is clarification^. What you've been doing is debating, not clarifying. Clarification saves time on other people assuming you mean things that you look to be saying by restating them more clearly.

I apologize for simply taking occam's razor when faced with your apparent hate for philosophy.

But for the sake of conversation here, even if I did say that I wasn't interested in all philosophical debates, that still wouldn't apply to this thread. The OT was not a philosophical debate, and my original response to it wasn't either. Why you're trying to drag me into one right now, I've no idea.

The original topic is whether one should accept or reject something as a label... which *is* a philosophical question

Also, if you've read the last several pages of the thread you *just now* posted in, you would see that the topic is *currently* wholly philosophical.

Turns out that after 9 pages, one's posts are so far from the OP that they tend to cease to be associated with that post, and instead say... the ones more recently made. Out of sight, out of mind... this bit is purely educational for your future posts (as in: try not to post a response without a quote to the OP in a thread where 17 pages separate you and the OP... it's generally a faux pas).