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Should we respect Religion?
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RE: Should we respect Religion?
(February 1, 2013 at 8:11 am)catfish Wrote: Right, right... But I know a few Wiccans and it's been my opinion that they all succum to "greedy" motives sooner or later.

How many humans on the planet have never succumbed to any greedy motives during the course of their lives? This includes atheists.

(February 1, 2013 at 8:11 am)catfish Wrote: Prosperity spells (money) seem to be generally viewed as "benign", but to attract money to oneself, wouldn't that take money from another?

If I bought a winning lottery ticket and shared the jackpot with several others I'd have taken money away from them. After all, the others would have ended up with more money if I hadn't bought my ticket. When I worked for a living I'd apply for an office job and, if I was accepted for the position, somebody else didn't get it.

A Wiccan who did a spell for attracting money could put themselves into a frame of mind where they are more observant. They could then notice a small advert in their local paper for a car boot sale and realise they have things they no longer need but which can be sold for extra money. Not all Wiccans do these kind of spells, though, because many individuals think they are unethical.

(February 1, 2013 at 8:11 am)catfish Wrote: Binding spells to "protect" children from drugs and alcohol would be an attempt to control another, right?

Yes it would. The best way to protect children against these things is to educate them so they are aware of the dangers. All the Wiccans/pagans I've known opted for educating kids to avoid dangers.

(February 1, 2013 at 8:11 am)catfish Wrote: While they may appear to be from a pure heart, I believe they are selfish.
They protect their children because they don't want to lose them...

Many parents are scared of losing their children - it's got nothing to do with religion so atheists could be over-protective for the same reason.

(February 1, 2013 at 8:11 am)catfish Wrote: They attract money because they're lazy... You know what I mean?
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Wiccans are the same as any other cross section of humans. Some will be lazy while others work for a living. Many are professionals. The following is about Wiccans in the USA but it will be the same for anywhere else.

http://www.randomhouse.com/features/witc...g/faq.html

Quote:Approximately 71% of Wiccans are female, and 29% are male, though more men are coming to this spirituality each year. Witches tend to be well-educated, well read and independent.They increasingly represent mainstream America there are Wiccan doctors, lawyers, soldiers, psychologists, schoolteachers, schoolchildren, busdrivers, waitresses, artists, actors, singers, and celebrities, to name just a few typical occupations.

How do Wiccans reconcile doing no harm with being in the military? I've read many discussions about how one can Do what you will, so long as it harms none. The truth is that it's impossible to exist without doing any harm at all - every time you wash your hands you're harming bacteria. The rede is meant to be something which makes people think about how their actions will effect others so they try to do the least amount of harm possible.

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Quote:There have been a number of published interpretations of how one should determine what constitutes 'harming none'. Silver Ravenwolf, for instance, believes that although acting to restrain a wrong-doer is in a sense harming them, failure to act against them could allow greater harm; this must be carefully weighed up, and preferably a course of action can be found that minimises harm to all parties.[13][14]

It's up to every Wiccan to find what they regard as an ethical way of being in the world. Some Wiccans wouldn't enlist in the military because they regard the military as doing more harm than good. Other Wiccans could think there'd be more harm caused by not having a military force to defend one's country. Other Wiccans could have converted while in the US military but can't leave until their eight year service obligation is up.
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Should we respect Religion? - by Gooders1002 - January 30, 2013 at 11:56 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Minimalist - January 31, 2013 at 12:56 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Gilgamesh - January 31, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Darth - January 31, 2013 at 1:02 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by KichigaiNeko - January 31, 2013 at 1:10 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by justin - February 3, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 1:18 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Cato - January 31, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Gooders1002 - January 31, 2013 at 2:12 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by FallentoReason - January 31, 2013 at 2:17 am
Re: Should we respect Religion? - by fr0d0 - January 31, 2013 at 2:26 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Cato - January 31, 2013 at 3:15 am
Re: RE: Should we respect Religion? - by fr0d0 - January 31, 2013 at 3:06 am
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RE: Should we respect Religion? - by frankiej - January 31, 2013 at 7:21 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by paulpablo - January 31, 2013 at 7:34 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by One Above All - January 31, 2013 at 8:05 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Ace Otana - January 31, 2013 at 8:07 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Dee Dee Ramone - January 31, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Metallica - January 31, 2013 at 9:18 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by LarissaAnn - January 31, 2013 at 10:14 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by catfish - January 31, 2013 at 10:22 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Gooders1002 - January 31, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 7:51 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Confused Ape - February 1, 2013 at 7:29 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by catfish - February 1, 2013 at 8:11 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Confused Ape - February 1, 2013 at 10:00 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by LarissaAnn - February 1, 2013 at 6:34 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by catfish - February 1, 2013 at 8:03 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by LarissaAnn - February 1, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Angrboda - February 2, 2013 at 1:58 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by ManMachine - February 10, 2013 at 6:11 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by catfish - January 31, 2013 at 8:12 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Gooders1002 - January 31, 2013 at 8:15 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 8:16 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by catfish - January 31, 2013 at 8:32 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 8:28 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Violet - January 31, 2013 at 8:36 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Zone - February 1, 2013 at 9:46 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by KichigaiNeko - February 1, 2013 at 9:48 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Ryantology - February 1, 2013 at 10:50 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by catfish - February 2, 2013 at 1:30 am
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by LarissaAnn - February 2, 2013 at 3:08 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by Angrboda - February 2, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by mr.atheist - February 3, 2013 at 1:56 pm
RE: Should we respect Religion? - by ManMachine - February 10, 2013 at 12:55 pm

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