RE: Annoying Atheist Arguments
February 1, 2013 at 10:49 pm
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2013 at 10:51 pm by genkaus.)
(February 1, 2013 at 8:15 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If your proposition under "test" is complex, there are shades of grey.
A simple proposition: 1+1=2, true or false? true.
A complex proposition: My keyboard doesn't work... false, for the most part, but there's a key that is faulty, so the keyboard doesn't work as fully intended.
The question of existence vs non-existence is not particularly complex.
(February 1, 2013 at 8:15 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Ah, from my POV, you're mixing an assumption with a belief.
I assume there is no god.
I do not believe there is no god.
I do not believe there is a god.
I have no belief either way, but I assume there isn't, for practical purposes.
Belief requires me to assert that proposition as true. I don't.
Do you even bother to learn the meanings of words before you use them?
Assuming there is no god is the same as starting with the belief that there is is no god. Since you are unconvinced otherwise, you still believe that there is no god.
When you assume something, you consider it to be true without proof. When you believe something, you consider it to be true.
Clearly, your assumptions are a part of your beliefs. All you are doing by saying that you assume there is no god, but you don't believe that there is no god while also not believing that there is a god is contradicting yourself over and over again.
(February 1, 2013 at 7:22 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I know falling hurts, because every time I've fallen, it has hurt to some degree. My knowledge of the relationship between falling and feeling pain, which I earned through experience, allows me to know that falling from atop a building will hurt.
And would you not have similar knowledge had you not experienced the pain of falling personally?
