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I fucking despise religion
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RE: I fucking despise religion
(February 8, 2013 at 4:01 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Oh course I can, don't be silly

I meant you can't do that and also be correct in a factually historic sense.


(February 8, 2013 at 4:01 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I find your rhetoric amusing. Words like occasional, some and degree.

There's always going to someone who gets carried away with barbarious fanatical zeal somewhere. It doesn't mean they they get to be typical of the whole thing. The conversion of Europe and the near East to Christianity was largely peaceful and was mainly through missionary activity rather rather than actual conquest. Now Islam involved military conquest right from the very start rather than something it developed much later. It doesn't mean that all modern Muslims are warmongers but it's historically fair to say.



(February 8, 2013 at 4:01 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Well of course they did, that was where the xtians sotred all their stolen gold...the Norsemen weren't stupid.

That was a motive as well, they were particularly after silver used in religious relics and monastries were undefended. But at the raid on Linisfarne monks were drowned in the sea in a mock baptism ceremony which suggests a religious motivation.


(February 8, 2013 at 4:01 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Who has told you this??

Books of real history.


(February 8, 2013 at 4:01 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Do we have to start with the xtians in Alexandria and their "peaceful" murder of Hypatia and go from there??

There was a small bit of mob violence and book burning once Christianity had become the dominant power in the Roman Empire, but it attained that power peacefully to begin with. The very first Christians were pacifists who wouldn't join the Roman army for example. Christianity spread from the Roman Empire into northern Europe, the Middle East/Asia and Africa peacefully through missionary work.



(February 8, 2013 at 4:01 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Sorry Zone but as far as I have read the xtians in the British Isles stole the then pagan religion lock stock and barrel. The "early xtians" of that island were incompetent in Latin and Greek. And as you say you didn't have nice "hippy dippy xtians" living peacefully with pagans during the same time period, nor were ALL Vikings the "bad Guy" many were just farmers and merchants and the xtians were just as hot for the goods they traded.

The pagans who converted to Christianity generally carried on just being farmers and merchants like you say. And the rougher more bloodthirsty pagans and Viking raiders became rougher bloodthirsty Christians. But the fact remains that Christianity wasn't spread by conflict, to any great degree before the time of the Crusades. Even the Crusades were limited in extent compared to the vast empire Islam had carved out for itself, they managed to boot the Moorish Muslims out of Spain for instance.
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I fucking despise religion - by Norfolk And Chance - February 3, 2013 at 7:56 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by pocaracas - February 3, 2013 at 8:04 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Norfolk And Chance - February 3, 2013 at 9:17 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by downbeatplumb - February 3, 2013 at 9:06 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 3, 2013 at 10:02 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Norfolk And Chance - February 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Minimalist - February 3, 2013 at 3:40 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by justin - February 3, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Faith No More - February 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by WinterHold - February 3, 2013 at 8:05 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 3, 2013 at 8:59 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by WinterHold - February 3, 2013 at 10:11 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by paulpablo - February 3, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Norfolk And Chance - February 4, 2013 at 7:02 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Aractus - February 3, 2013 at 10:41 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 3, 2013 at 11:57 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Minimalist - February 4, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Aractus - February 4, 2013 at 12:23 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Strongbad - February 4, 2013 at 8:13 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Aractus - February 6, 2013 at 8:03 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Cinjin - February 7, 2013 at 3:27 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 4, 2013 at 12:28 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Aractus - February 4, 2013 at 12:39 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Angrboda - February 4, 2013 at 1:22 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zen Badger - February 6, 2013 at 6:47 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 4, 2013 at 10:06 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Dee Dee Ramone - February 4, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 4, 2013 at 11:07 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by WinterHold - February 5, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 5, 2013 at 2:53 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by KichigaiNeko - February 6, 2013 at 6:08 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 6:26 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by WinterHold - February 6, 2013 at 8:58 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Aractus - February 6, 2013 at 9:16 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by WinterHold - February 6, 2013 at 9:40 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Aractus - February 7, 2013 at 5:56 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Cinjin - February 7, 2013 at 9:14 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by KichigaiNeko - February 6, 2013 at 6:27 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 6, 2013 at 6:52 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by KichigaiNeko - February 6, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by KichigaiNeko - February 7, 2013 at 2:56 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by KichigaiNeko - February 7, 2013 at 6:21 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by KichigaiNeko - February 7, 2013 at 7:35 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 7, 2013 at 9:47 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by KichigaiNeko - February 8, 2013 at 4:01 am
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 8, 2013 at 12:41 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Minimalist - February 8, 2013 at 12:51 pm
RE: I fucking despise religion - by Zone - February 8, 2013 at 1:27 pm

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