Question about female worth in islam.

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It is true. But not like it's a nationality, it's a unity in thought ; not customs & traditions.

Islam copied the customs and traditions of the Jews, and added a few extra. You may think they're commandents of God/Allah but as far as I'm concerned it's human made cultural tradition, because that's what they are.

I dare you to spot me as a Muslim in public :p

I would spot you by your beard and the gleam in your eye, your general cut. If you were a woman with a covered head or face it would be slightly easier.

In marriage. Due to the categorizations of obligations in marriage, men are supposed to pay for everything -literally-. In the same time they don't have the right to take any money from their mates without previously asking for it.

And all Muslim women have to married off, at an early age. Then they generally rear the children at home, under the authority of the man. You know it to be true.

This is a very tough obligation, zone, Islam actually gives women the right not to pay a penny for the family.

But they're not really meant to bring money into the household that's the point. They're in the home. If they go out they have to cover themselves up to avoid being "uncovered meat".

That's why men -in marriage- are one degree above women (like god stated next) with what they payed -men-.

In marriage, legal rights and everything else.

So a husband who doesn't pay is not above women. Matter in fact, a single mother is better than all men.

It wouldn't typically be a single Muslim woman, they will get married off to a man to do his cooking and cleaning. That's just how it goes they're not normally fully independent or equal to men. Again the Western world was more or the same up until about 100 years ago.

mm, good point.
But I don't think it's that bad in Islam. During the first Islamic century -the generation of Mohammed-, women were fighting, telling their opinions in public and some of them kicked were screaming in their husbands. Women during that time used the same mosques as men.

While it may have been progressive for the 7th century it's a bit of stretch to say that Islam founded womens lib. That's a product of Western mainly secular culture with some Christian roots. Women did have to fight for and win these rights they weren't given anything. They won the vote after the role they played working in ammunition factories during WW1 while the men were slowly walking into machine gun fire. Muslim women can vote as well these days but it didn't originate from the Islam or the Quran.

I didn't notice any decline in women rights until the end of the caliphates. It is by then, when crazy religious statements were thrown against women -they even forbid women from praying in the same mosques as men without "a wall" between them..

Women were always allowed in the same church you know, the Catholic Church even had a divine goddess like figure in the Virgin Mary, there are numerous female Saints as well of course.

This verse proves equality between men & women :
"He is the one who created you from one soul, then made its pair from it".

A rehash of the Jewish creation myth which explains the origins of men and women. But it's not saying they're equal or at least that they ought to fill the same general role in society. You're going to have to be a stretch for that.

That's weird, I remember using that in school in something related to physics or something ?? I can't remember exactly but a thumb was included with "a rule" xD

Ah but did you know the Quran instructs men to beat disobeidient wives? Though it is after you admonish them and sleep in a separate bed. The beating is a last resort if they continue to disobey.