Christ's birthday

[rjh4 is back]

That would mean that you also believe in all the miracles that happened. Why aren't there any evidence? By the way, you still need to convince us that there IS a god out there to start with...

First, it is not my job to convince you God exists. Second, I seriously doubt there is anything that would qualify as evidence for you for a miracle. But the reason may not be that there is no evidence. The reason may be that your presuppositions do not allow for miracles so you would not recognize the evidence as such even if you saw it.

Seems to me like you've made up your mind and that you will have a perfect excuse for each inconsistancy that we would throw at you.

Well if you haven't figured it out by now...that God exists and that the Bible is the Word of God is a presupposition for me. So you would be correct.

The Bible was written by primative men long after the death of Jesus so you're making a big mistake taking the Bible as the "word of God". I think it should be re-named to "the Word of men"...

Even if true, that merely means that I listen to different words of men than you. For even you in your reliance on the scientific method for all answers must rely upon the word of those scientists and hope that their conclusions are not jaded by their own presuppositions.

So if you really think that the God is rational then I'm sure you won't mind following his laws and therefore start killing people (and lots of them) for 1: being gay, 2: believing in other gods, 3: women not obeying their men, 4: rebellious children etc. (the list is long...)
All of these things are "consistant" with what the Bible tells us so why do you not follow these laws dictated by your "consistant" God? You do believe it is his word after all don't you? Or have you also, like millions of other people,thought about these laws and saw them for what they are: "inconsistant"?

To me, Craveman, this is one of your most surprising statements and seems to reveal a real lack of understanding of Christianity. The laws you talk about above were given to the nation of Israel as a theocracy. While they clearly indicate that certain behaviors are sin to God, they do not indicate that we as Christians should take it upon ourselves to punish those who sin in those manners. In case you didn't realize it, in the US and UK we do not live in a theocracy. The NT tells us we as Christians should obey the laws of the land or expect to suffer the consequences of the law of the land. The laws of our land do not allow those things (that is why I think it is wrong for a Christian to kill an abortion doctor) so the fact that I do not think it appropriate to go around killing those who sin in those manners is not inconsistent with the Bible and Christianity. I do think those behaviors are sin to God but the good new is that God provided a way out of such sin through trusing in Jesus (just in case you hadn't heard before ).

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I love the way you ignore my example of how god hardened Pharaohs heart to the point where he could not convert. Just so god can prove his power and glory to his "chosen".

Romans 9:19-24.