RE: Has anyone ever found a way to reconsile being Gay/Bi/Lesbien and being a Christian?
February 18, 2013 at 1:02 am
(February 18, 2013 at 12:40 am)Ryantology Wrote: So, what Christ is saying is that the most unrepentant sinners will actually be considered the greatest in Heaven?what makes you think Unrepentant sinners will be apart of the Kingdom of Heaven? Remember the verse you are pulling from in Mat 5 makes that stipulation. "will be made Least in the Kingdom of Heaven." Hell is not apart of God's "Kingdom of Heaven" is it? No, Hell is eternal banishment/seperation from God. Can be banished if you are still in the Kingdom.
Quote:The likeliest scenario is that Matthew 5 outright contradicts those other passages, and you are going through the semantic nightmare of twisting meanings of words until you get something that looks like consistency.-or- as you have said 10 times in this thread. a plain reading is the correct one. Maybe perhaps this is why it is better to take the interpertation of a teacher with 20 of studying this one book, than it is to just assume that a single read through is all one needs.
What you seem to not understand is we must reconsile all the teachings into a single understanding/doctrine. That is why it is foolish to say all one needs is to read what is on page to have a complete understanding of the bible. Because NOT Everything is on page. The first shall be last and the last shall be first is an excellent example of this point. Because in your Mat 5 passage you just assume it is always better to be first. Why? Because your heart is full of pride, and the proud always march out front. "WE" as servents of Christ are called to be humble. The humble do not place importance on their rank. Allowing the proud to go to the front. God see this and makes the nessary adjustments. Making the Last (in the Kingdom of Heaven) First.
Quote:To be perfectly frank, what Matthew 5 means and its consequences for you are beside the point. The problem is that the inerrant Holy Bible is a freakishly inconsistent mess, written by multiple authors at different times, none of whom were around to witness any of the events they describe, all of whom have their own agendas, opinions, and total ignorance of how the world actually works.-Or- Maybe the world simply does not understand how the bible works..
Quote:If the Bible was really the inerrant word of God, it would be clear, concise, and irresistibly direct.It would require no dissemination and interpretation. It would feature no contradictions, either internal or external.
Who says? You?If the bible was how you described it we would have people worship the bible and over looking God.
It is perfect as is. Because As it is written only those in whom God has called (and they answer according to how they were called) can make heads or tails of it.
Quote:Your god's supposed communication methods have proven to be so faulty and inconsistent that without the combination of threats and enticements found in the Bible, nobody would have ever taken it seriously.Have you seriously thought, that maybe not everyone was meant to?
If this was God's intention then wouldn't it be pretty darn effective as written?
