RE: Has anyone ever found a way to reconsile being Gay/Bi/Lesbien and being a Christian?
February 18, 2013 at 1:16 am
(February 18, 2013 at 1:02 am)Drich Wrote: what makes you think Unrepentant sinners will be apart of the Kingdom of Heaven? Remember the verse you are pulling from in Mat 5 makes that stipulation. "will be made Least in the Kingdom of Heaven." Hell is not apart of God's "Kingdom of Heaven" is it? No, Hell is eternal banishment/seperation from God. Can be banished if you are still in the Kingdom.
What makes you think that you are a repentant sinner when you refuse to adhere to the laws God laid down in the Old Testament? If you are called at all, you will be called least, because you do not adhere to his laws. But, then Jesus will turn around and reward you by making you greatest, just because? Makes the OT Law sound so pointless that you could only measure it with negative integers.
Quote:-or- as you have said 10 times in this thread. a plain reading is the correct one. Maybe perhaps this is why it is better to take the interpertation of a teacher with 20 of studying this one book, than it is to just assume that a single read through is all one needs.
You assume much about how many times I have read the Bible.
Quote:What you seem to not understand is we must reconsile all the teachings into a single understanding/doctrine.I understand that you feel like you must, but what you seem to not understand is that such a contradictory mishmash can never be reconciled into a single understanding, hence why there are 40,000 denominations of Christianity.
Quote:That is why it is foolish to say all one needs is to read what is on page to have a complete understanding of the bible. Because NOT Everything is on page. The first shall be last and the last shall be first is an excellent example of this point. Because in your Mat 5 passage you just assume it is always better to be first. Why? Because your heart is full of pride, and the proud always march out front. "WE" as servents of Christ are called to be humble. The humble do not place importance on their rank. Allowing the proud to go to the front. God see this and makes the nessary adjustments. Making the Last (in the Kingdom of Heaven) First.
If this is true, then why bother putting in anything more than the barest minimum of effort towards achieving salvation? It sounds, yet again, as if you're trying to twist everything around so that you can believe you'll be saved.
Quote:-Or- Maybe the world simply does not understand how the bible works..
And yet, you think you're special.
Quote:If the bible was how you described it we would have people worship the bible and over looking God.
Who says? You?
Quote:It is perfect as is. Because As it is written only those in whom God has called (and they answer according to how they were called) can make heads or tails of it.That would make the very concept of a Bible redundant. Those who have the understanding to make sense of it already know what they need to know. Those who do not have that understanding would find the Bible incomprehensible. I think that a book should exist to provide understanding. If I must have that understanding before I can make any sense of the book, the book is useless.
Quote:Have you seriously thought, that maybe not everyone was meant to?
If this was God's intention then wouldn't it be pretty darn effective as written?
If that's true, then God's love for mankind is a fraud, because if there is one absolutely correct way to interpret God's word, most people are doomed to never get it, if anyone is at all.
