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The Problem with the Gospels
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RE: The Problem with the Gospels
(November 7, 2009 at 12:27 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Ok let me remind you what you're talking about:

Evie Wrote:It does not make sense to say that God 'just is' and yet he also does not exist, that is a contradiction.

See I never said that God doesn't exist. YOU did.

1. So you're not implying that when you say his existence if irrelevant? In which case... what is your point? If his existence is irrelevant then that means him 'being' is irrelevant, because he can't 'be' or do anything if 'He' does not exist.

2. On MSN you've said to me before that he doesn't exist... and that he doesn't exist by my language. Yet you haven't clarified how he exists by your language.

If he doesn't exist there there is no God and everything about him is irrelevant outside of the possibility of the placebo effect. He can't be or do anything. Saying he "just is" makes no sense whatsoever if he doesn't exist. If he doesn't exist then outside the placebo effect, He is irrelevant. To say his existence is irrelevant is to say he is... unless you're simply arguing for the placebo effect, unless you're saying that delusional possible inspiration and/or consolation is worth it?

Well said CP. The statement fr0d0 made:
fr0d0 Wrote:I don't think in terms of 'existence' but rather that God just 'is'.
- is completely nonsensical. So if most Christians truly think that way, then most Christians don't understand language lol.

EvF
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The Problem with the Gospels - by Eilonnwy - October 27, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Violet - October 27, 2009 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Eilonnwy - October 27, 2009 at 12:14 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Craveman - October 27, 2009 at 12:33 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by AngelaRachnid - October 27, 2009 at 7:01 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Eilonnwy - October 27, 2009 at 8:16 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by rjh4 - October 27, 2009 at 7:13 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Eilonnwy - October 27, 2009 at 8:06 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - October 27, 2009 at 8:16 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - October 27, 2009 at 8:34 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by AngelaRachnid - October 28, 2009 at 9:42 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Eilonnwy - October 27, 2009 at 8:50 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - October 28, 2009 at 9:05 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Meatball - October 28, 2009 at 11:06 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Eilonnwy - October 28, 2009 at 11:20 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Meatball - October 28, 2009 at 11:48 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Eilonnwy - October 28, 2009 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - October 28, 2009 at 9:48 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by AngelaRachnid - October 28, 2009 at 10:15 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Minimalist - October 29, 2009 at 12:48 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - October 29, 2009 at 8:06 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Minimalist - October 29, 2009 at 10:13 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - October 29, 2009 at 11:13 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Minimalist - October 31, 2009 at 11:03 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by AngelaRachnid - November 1, 2009 at 12:20 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - October 31, 2009 at 11:07 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Minimalist - October 31, 2009 at 11:29 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Minimalist - November 1, 2009 at 9:51 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Eilonnwy - November 4, 2009 at 9:47 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - November 5, 2009 at 4:39 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Violet - November 5, 2009 at 5:01 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Ace Otana - November 5, 2009 at 5:58 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Violet - November 5, 2009 at 6:00 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Ace Otana - November 5, 2009 at 6:04 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - November 5, 2009 at 7:31 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Ace Otana - November 5, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2009 at 7:56 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Ace Otana - November 6, 2009 at 6:19 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 6:55 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Ace Otana - November 6, 2009 at 7:20 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Violet - November 5, 2009 at 8:56 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Minimalist - November 5, 2009 at 11:49 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - November 6, 2009 at 12:59 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Minimalist - November 6, 2009 at 2:29 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Violet - November 6, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Minimalist - November 6, 2009 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 8:18 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2009 at 8:25 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 8:49 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2009 at 8:55 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 9:14 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2009 at 9:28 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 9:38 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2009 at 9:53 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Edwardo Piet - November 6, 2009 at 11:15 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 6, 2009 at 11:42 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2009 at 12:06 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 7, 2009 at 12:27 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2009 at 8:43 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - November 7, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - November 7, 2009 at 8:54 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 7, 2009 at 8:57 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Edwardo Piet - November 7, 2009 at 9:04 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by chatpilot - November 7, 2009 at 9:50 am
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by fr0d0 - November 7, 2009 at 7:00 pm
RE: The Problem with the Gospels - by Historynut - March 18, 2013 at 10:58 pm

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