RE: Question for atheists...
February 20, 2013 at 9:43 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2013 at 10:15 am by BeeDeePee.)
(February 20, 2013 at 8:01 am)Ryantology Wrote: If all you did is take a break from your religion, you were probably never an atheist in the first place.
Well, I remember I thought how silly is to believe in God without evidence. I' ve changed the complete world view. Even now I'm not sure 100% that my faith is true. I still question an have no problem with that. I don't know everything, I don't have answers on all questions, but it doesn't mean I can't believe in God, because I think that doubt is completely natural and there's nothing wrong with that. Atheist and theism are both natural.
(February 20, 2013 at 7:48 am)Strongbad Wrote: So when you were an atheist, you:I believed in everything that you've mentioned. Call me a liar or whatever you want, I said how it happened... I'm not here to convince others in anything, and I won't spend my time trying to convince you that I'm not lying.
• Believed that ALL religions were contrived by men, and ALL were works of fiction
• Could not accept the claims made by religious people or their “holy” books
• Believed that religious people, of all “faiths” were misguided at best, and delusional at worst
• Believed that physical reality was all that existed, and stories of “creation”, deities, spirits, angels, demons, souls, etc., were merely fantasies
You either have no clue as to what an atheist is, or you are flat-out fucking lying. Go sing "Amazing Grace" somewhere else.
(February 19, 2013 at 9:43 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Events do not suddenly stop being metaphysical and start being physical. The events you describe as 'metaphysical' were really just physical phenomena all along, and we simply didn't understand them. This is why I dismiss any appeal to metaphysics in debates of this nature.I made a mistake by using the word "mepathysical". I was speaking about untestable claims.
Quote:Untestable hypotheses are good for nothing more than discussion fodder. It's silly, not to mention pointless, to resort to one and insist that it is worth more than that.Well, we all resort to untestable hypotheses and claims and don't think about them as meaningless.
(February 19, 2013 at 5:28 pm)pocaracas Wrote: The warm fuzzy feeling.I questioned my faith billion of times, and wanted to find better reasons for believing instead to believe just because I was born where the Orthodox Church is the biggest religious group.
I can get that with a blanket!!
Quote:I'm talking about transformation, not just feelings.Aye, you believe what was implanted in your brain. And you were implanted with the notion that you belong in this social group called "orthodox christians", and you hang in there by following its rites.
Quote:Do we need to believe in god?You don't. I've said that everyone has thery own way of salvation.