Religion and LGBT people

[Violet]

The thing is, whether or not sexual orientation is a choice is completely irrelevant.

You all thought it was relevant before the evidence stacked up against you.

* Violet never thought that whether gay people had a choice in the matter was relevant.

Always thought it was a bit of a cop-out and an intentional distraction when people asked 'Well, is being gay natural?!'... since the question should be 'Why discriminate overmuch because some dude likes cock or some lady likes pussy?'

'Because it's unnatural!'

So is filtered water

'I'm amish, bitch!'

So it came to pass that laws were written against homosexual behavior ('gay sex') because a bunch of hypocrites (or amish people) thought of gay sex and said 'eww!'

Oddly, the men who wrote these things didn't seem to care quite as much when women were having sex with each other... but let's not allow this to devolve into my brand of sexism~

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Overall I have to agree with Ryan here. The main issue is that people like you, John, seem to believe that it is your right to issue upon other people your view as to their morality based on a life style that is demonstrably innocuous.

'People like John'... so, handsome devils with a hearty love of ice cream?

That was pretty passive aggressive, buddy.

There is absolutely no secular reason for straight people to have more rights than any other orientation, and the religious one basically comes down to "Because god said so".

'Straight' people outnumber 'gay' people, and decency laws exist. If the majority of straight people find gay actions 'indecent', then BAM: law time.

The religious one really comes down to 'Eww' and sociopolitical understanding of gayness delivered to them by their church and their selection of media and news and shizzle God said many things, and yet people still eat shellfish

Your god doesn't even give any reasons for why it is bad, or examples of the harm it causes, it's just bad because he said it is. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: That's law by arbitration, and it's intrinsically unjust.

All laws are arbitrary. What is so special about hurt or badness? Sounds like pleading to me. I'll raise you: every law is arbitrary, and also intrinsically unjust.

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No, as no one's defined "at will" for me yet. Everyone keeps telling me I'm arguing that though. Actually, I proposed that a bi continuum paradigm reflects reality better than a strict born gay/bi/straight paradigm.

I'd have given this kudos, but I try to not kudos posts where people insult others.

* Violet utterly lies because she's an admitted favoritist