(November 7, 2009 at 8:10 pm)solarwave Wrote: No evidence, no evidence, where is this God I wish not to see?!?!
Where is this god that is so good at hide and seek he might as well not be there you mean?
Quote: You may claim healing, miracle, changed lifes and relationship, but if I dont see it, it can't be true.
Rephrase:You may claim healing, miracle, changed life's and relationships, but if I you do not provide tangible evidence for it, there is no reason for us to accept your claims to be true.
Quote:Any evidence you give cannot possibly be true.Wrong.
Quote:A lie, delusion, a god delusion it must be!
Wrong again, provide evidence of this "God" character and I will be more than happy to accept its existence.
Quote: It must be you that is in wrong, it couldn't possibly be me.
And third time wrong, we are well aware we might be wrong, but unless you, the claimant, provide evidence for your claim, or better yet, have your god provide that claim, there is no reason for me or anyone else for that matter to accept your claim as correct.
Quote:(Not aimed at all atheists here)
Why not? You might as well, because that is how most if not all atheists feel about this god claim you put forward.
You make the demand for evidence out to be a bad thing and that faith is so much better. It really isn't. Accepting claims on faith and personal interpretations of events leaves you wide open for mistakes, false suppositions, and can in some cases be very harmful.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
