(February 25, 2013 at 7:55 pm)AtlasS Wrote:(February 25, 2013 at 7:40 pm)Nobody Wrote: Someone who first accepts an infinitely knowing being exists, and then believe that being created an eternal Hell for those it judges worthy, have already condemned themselves to the masochistic worship of a sadistic invisible fiction.
After that, there's no room for reason to ever change a thing about it.
The story is very long. We just don't worship a sadestic figure without a reasonthe whole story of creation, the existence of humans on earth & everything else makes sense.. with hell being "a star" that might cool down & vanish makes the story of Islam stronger..
Especially if hell was a star. You should check that out, because no other religion was able to make sense about these events.
God doesn't torture those people because he's evil. God is just ; he doesn't play games. One of the rules he put in this universe is "gratitude" ; which is pure justice.
I love my mother because she carried me for months, fed me, raised me, taught me. That's why the right thing to do is thank her, do what she asks at least.. it's justice ; she deserves it.
The same with god. If hell was a star, simply god is telling people who didn't believe in him or in heaven : you didn't show your gratitude.. I shouldn't show mine.. meet your fate. Believe in this physical world only ; and you would stay in it while it's consuming itself -which is a natural phenomena- that happened many many times.
More like -you will get what you believe in-.
Hell as a star? So,then when it goes supernova that's mercy?

Thing is, if you believe in a deity that bears the 'omni' characteristics, and also believe he is sovereign, then your life from the moment it began until the moment it ends and all that occurs thereafter is predestined.
Ergo, you think you have free will. But in truth given those aforementioned characteristics of that deity, you do not. Therefore, you're simply living your destiny while no matter what you do, your fate is set.
It's like the ancient Vikings who imagined life was a skein already woven as the story of their individual life. Nothing in the picture wherein they're presence helps to make the 'big picture' will ever change no matter what they do. So why worry? When it's all unfolding as was laid out long before they arrived.
That's the exact copy that follows with all monotheistic sovereign god myths that speak of a reward for the compliant, and a punishment for the rebellious.
And by the way, why would a supreme being need to have lesser beings obey it's will so that it is pleased? It's like asking an ant to live up to our expectations that it be more than an ant, else we'll squish it and teach it a lesson for being just an ant.