RE: what being apart from the law means.
February 26, 2013 at 2:25 am
(This post was last modified: February 26, 2013 at 2:37 am by Drich.)
(February 26, 2013 at 12:07 am)Question Mark Wrote: Difference between a god and a dog, is that I've seen a dog before. I'm not sure that either you or I have ever seen a god.That's just it. Christ in Luke 11:5-13 Makes a promise. That if you Ask Seek Knock as His parable outlines, you will be given a measure of the Holy Spirit. Meaning you will get to experience God for yourself.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...rsion=NKJV
Quote:To use your analogy, if you'd like to bring me every single god you know of to me until you find the right one to show me, be my absolute guest. If instead we're looking for clues as to the where abouts of the "dog", then some characteristics of the beast might be a start.That's not my analogy. I preface my analogy by saying that bringing you dogs till you find the one you are looking for, would be a fool's errand. For what if you weren't looking for a Dog at all? what if you just wanted to see how many dogs people were willing to bring before they shook the dust from their feet with you and moved on?
That is why it is not an unreasonable request to ask what it is you are looking for Exactly. Because again If you do not know then how do you hope to know when you found it?
Quote:What characteristics of there of your god? That might set us on the path of discovering some clues to its existence.If we A/S/K (Ask Seek Knock) as outlined in Luke 11 we can expect the receive a measure of the Holy Spirit. when this happens the first thing we will note is an awareness of the sins in our lives that are keeping us from a full relationship with god. If we are faithful to this awaking we will be given more of the Holy Spirit. In the way of Spiritual Fruit: Gal 5:22&23http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Galatians%205&version=NKJV
If we are faithful with the Spiritual fruit we will receive Spiritual gifts:
1cor 12http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians+12&version=NKJV
(the whole Chapter.) It is in these Spiritual gifts that we become acutly aware of God.
(February 26, 2013 at 12:27 am)ThomM Wrote: And that is the heart of the matter. Religions makes enough impossible and contradictory claims about the characteristics of their gods as to establish them as being impossible to exist.Perception is the key here. If you are willing to Look at the Bible to define the Characteristics of God Nothing you have listed here will go with out a settling explaination.
Quote:Example - "Almighty" (Nothing is impossible with god - Luke) - cannot be true. Any god claimed as such cannot exist.Why? What does Almighty mean to you? Does your defination have a built in paradox? If so, does that mean nothing can be almight or does it mean you have a flawed defination?
Quote:Any religion that claims free will - and an All Knowing god - cannot be true as well -that is a direct contradiction.What is 'free will?' According to how the bible describes it is not the greek philosphy that say one has complete atonomy to pick and choose his or her life without influence. "Free will" as the bible describes it is the ablity to freely seek attonement/forgiveness for sin. That's it. That is the only 'free will' we have been offered.
For the Bible tells us we are living the oppsite of the Greek philosphy of free will. It says our wills are bound in slavery to sin, that we have no choice but to sin. Where our one choice comes in is to seek redemption if we to be with God, or we have the oppertunity to remain apart from God.
Quote:It is in the "perfections" that religions prove their lack of reality.Then maybe do not look to the 'religions' for your answers.
Quote:Another example - in a monotheism - and in polytheisms like Xtianity where there was only ONE creator - that creator had to create everything good - and everything bad - because it would have ultimately created everything - no other being has that power.So?
Quote:So - in Xtianity - the creator god is the source of all evil and cannot be ALL good - ALL just - ALL fair - and lots of others.-or- Just maybe you have a flawed understanding of Good and Evil..