RE: what being apart from the law means.
February 26, 2013 at 9:29 pm
(This post was last modified: February 26, 2013 at 9:31 pm by Question Mark.)
Drich, I do wish you would stop avoiding questions, and just answer me in the most obliging, concise manner possible. Telling me to do something that the bible says to do (which incidentally I've tried. I was a christian and tried it out before deciding not to believe it) does not in any way tell me the characteristics of your god. Unless you're trying to imply that the characteristics of your god are to be found in the bible, which right there means that I can stop looking right now, since that's the answer.
The god of the bible is easily refutable, and even if it does exist, it's a damn monster if the bible is to be believed, and it beggars belief that you or anyone else would ally yourself to it. It's a despicable, malevolent tyrant that threatens humanity with a punishment worse than death, and tries to bribe us to love it with one of the most ridiculous means of communicating its intentions I've ever heard of.
I'm looking for your god. Asking me what I'm looking for after explaining this is, I hope you understand, a little aggravating. If the best means of communicating its features to me is "do what this bible passage says", then I'm going to have to first ask why int he world I should take the bible seriously.
Well, consider that if everything comes from god, since he is the creator, then the concept of sin and evil was also created by him, apparently with purpose and design. Anything that creates evil, has to be in some sense evil itself. If your god is good, he cannot create evil, certainly. Therefore he must be at least part evil in order to create evil.
The god of the bible is easily refutable, and even if it does exist, it's a damn monster if the bible is to be believed, and it beggars belief that you or anyone else would ally yourself to it. It's a despicable, malevolent tyrant that threatens humanity with a punishment worse than death, and tries to bribe us to love it with one of the most ridiculous means of communicating its intentions I've ever heard of.
I'm looking for your god. Asking me what I'm looking for after explaining this is, I hope you understand, a little aggravating. If the best means of communicating its features to me is "do what this bible passage says", then I'm going to have to first ask why int he world I should take the bible seriously.
(February 26, 2013 at 9:01 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(February 26, 2013 at 12:27 am)ThomM Wrote: So - in Xtianity - the creator god is the source of all evil and cannot be ALL good - ALL just - ALL fair - and lots of others.How do you justify this kind of statement without some reference to draw your conclusions about what is good and what is evil. Perhaps you could define evil without making reference to any specific examples, like "burning the inner thighs of virgins". (-50 morality points)
Well, consider that if everything comes from god, since he is the creator, then the concept of sin and evil was also created by him, apparently with purpose and design. Anything that creates evil, has to be in some sense evil itself. If your god is good, he cannot create evil, certainly. Therefore he must be at least part evil in order to create evil.
If you believe it, question it. If you question it, get an answer. If you have an answer, does that answer satisfy reality? Does it satisfy you? Probably not. For no one else will agree with you, not really.
