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Why is faith important?
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RE: Why is faith important?
(February 28, 2013 at 12:18 pm)ronedee Wrote: To have Faith, one must first find the Truth. And where is that found?

Anything man is involved in is tainted and a lie. We can make anything to suit our views or needs.

And then we have:

(February 28, 2013 at 12:18 pm)ronedee Wrote: I'm sorry, but man is flawed. And you can get as many opinions and/or answers on a given subject as you have people in a room! So who's right?

And then we get the kicker:

(February 28, 2013 at 12:18 pm)ronedee Wrote: The real teacher is the Holy Spirit. Jesus said for us to "look within, and find the kingdom of Heaven".

Man is flawed. You cannot trust what man thinks. You can only trust what the holy spirit tells you.

And how does the Holy Spirit tell you? Unless you are like the Son of Sam where you are hearing voices to tell you to do things, then you are really only hearing your own inclinations in your head. Or you are hearing the voices of people you trust in your head that are being reinterpreted.

Unless you really believe that you have a special power that is unique, which is to have spirits speak to you in your waking hours that tell you true things. With no one to validate that they are coming from anything but yourself, which is elevating yourself as God, and serving yourself, and considering your own thoughts as God's.

That isn't faith. But there is a psychological term for it.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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Why is faith important? - by Question Mark - February 27, 2013 at 9:30 pm
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RE: Why is faith important? - by Drich - February 28, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Why is faith important? - by Question Mark - March 1, 2013 at 12:00 am
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RE: Why is faith important? - by Drich - March 1, 2013 at 4:07 pm
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RE: Why is faith important? - by ThomM - February 28, 2013 at 9:34 am
RE: Why is faith important? - by Question Mark - February 28, 2013 at 10:17 am
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RE: Why is faith important? - by Faith No More - February 28, 2013 at 10:58 am
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RE: Why is faith important? - by EGross - March 3, 2013 at 1:19 am
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RE: Why is faith important? - by FallentoReason - March 13, 2013 at 1:44 am
RE: Why is faith important? - by The Grand Nudger - March 12, 2013 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why is faith important? - by The Grand Nudger - March 12, 2013 at 11:44 pm
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RE: Why is faith important? - by CleanShavenJesus - March 19, 2013 at 4:33 pm
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