(March 2, 2013 at 6:41 pm)jstrodel Wrote:(March 2, 2013 at 6:38 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Let me respond with another question: How do you know YOUR God IS real?
And yes, an open-minded person would be open to the idea of God. And we all have been. And then we weren't. Because we realized the truly open-minded person would be open to the idea of NO God.
I know because i have given up my life of psychedelic music and fun and sex and followed the hard road of self denial and holiness, ready to give up anything just to know, just to know what life was about. There is really very little in life that you can know just by thinking about it. Deeper knowledge comes through a combination of experience and reflection. Atheists are all up in the mind. They don't realize that God is something to be experienced and known as a person.
A million times you repeat your propaganda which you post over and over again like clockwork, trying to argue your way against the worlds wisdom traditions, imagining at age 23 you have solved every problem that needs to be solved.
I know now that I know so little, but what I have, I hold on to dearly. It is not like a piece of propaganda like a you tube video or someting that I watch on TV, it is my relationship with God, not delicate, very certain, so certain I would easily die for it.
And I know, because in response, God revealed to me what I posted above, and much much more.
How do you know that you aren't an atheist because you like getting high and having sex and listening to pink floyd? You havn't sought the issue out deeply, because if you did, you'd have the same experience I have.
Woah woah woah now, don't diss Pink Floyd. First of all, I haven't done any sort of drug in a long time, not because I had some sort of strange revelation like you apparently did, but because I got bored of it. Never went past marijuana though. And yes, I do like having sex. But absolutely none of those things affect me being atheist. Let's get this out of the way because I know it'll be said, atheism and morals do not coincide. The term "atheist" simply means that you lack belief in a god/gods. There is no connection with personality. Some are nice, some are well-accomplished, some are fuck-ups. It doesn't matter.
Now that that is out of the way, religion is propaganda. Majority of the time that is what it's used for. As Seneca the Younger once said, "religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.” By being a follower of religion, you're partaking in the largest example of propoganda in human history.
Your proof for your God is in the connections you've had with Him. But what about a Muslim who claims to have had similar, if not the exact same, type of interactions with Allah? Is he bullshitting? Or are you bullshitting? How can you prove he isn't bullshitting, because if he isn't, that really fucks up your claims.
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