Why is faith important?

[jstrodel]

Probably none of you atheists will have the attention span to actually wrap your minds around this, you will just reply with a masturbation joke, but I will post it anyways:

Faith is the way that people severe there connection with the world around them and become united to the seed of the revelation of God. When people believe in God, it is almost as if all the other authorities and definitions of knowing and understanding and all the other competing views give way to the reality of the holy light of God, which challenges the morality of the world around and gives a new center in Jesus Christ.

Without faith, people are just reasoning and reasoning back and forth, debating about the right way to go, with no authority. When people have faith, it is like they become wed to God, they become one, their will is unified with God, if it was through peoples reason, there would be no marriage, it would be back and forth, no commitment. With faith, there is commitment, people become committed to doing good for the rest of their life and not doing wrong. To repent is to say that I will never do wrong, it is not necessary to have some sort of intellectual proof of changing from an evil person to a good person, you just change.

And faith and reason rely upon each other and establish each other, like a man seeing his wife and knowing her is linked to a man's covenant of marriage. Reason illuminates faith, it is intoxicating, and like sexuality, is addictive and potentially destructive and deeply linked to pride and the expression of ones will or ones seed.

The marriage of faith and reason is like the combination of the covenant of marriage and sexuality. Sexuality illuminates and gives a physical union to the spiritual, permanent union of marriage, which cannot be changed. So the believer puts his absolute trust in God, and cuts a covenant and says no more will I be a wicked person, instead I will be a follower of Christ. From this point on, reason can guide the person and illuminate his choice to do good, but it can never replace good with evil.

And you have evidence for all of this, I assume? You have evidence that you can provide that supports your assertion that faith is superior to thinking, in deciding what's best for humanity, and that your god approves of the method?

Also, I'd just like to say for the part at the beginning of your comment, just a little thing. Fuck you.
If you're going to address someone, the first thing out of your mouth should not be aspersions cast upon their intellectual integrity and maturity. So grow up, and learn some damn respect for other people before you decide to be a juvenile prick, okay?

Well, the last time I posted that is what I got, a bunch of jokes about masturbation (you can find the thread if you want, it is in the philosophy forum).

I am sorry if you did not deserve it, rebuke your atheist friends the next time they treat people with disrespect. I removed the original message because it is a different thread.


The evidence is my experience. My lack of moral authority caused me to have the need to seek out what the nature of that authority was. I saw that perhaps God may reveal himself in the ancient traditions. I did not know, but I believed that maybe God would. And as I sought God more and more and more I realized more and more that he was real.

Necessarily, if thinking is the source of morality, and is indeterminate, so will morality be indeterminate.

There is no way to say that thinking is superior to anything else, there are so many varieties of thinking and so many movements, how can you possibly generalize about all of them?

Religious faith is a test to see whether people value some sense of truth more than there own appreciation of the nature of truth. Faith is like you are walking toward what may give you the answer, as you get closer and closer, you meet him. I have seen so many miracles and so many displays of the power of God. It starts through realizing that there must be more than your opinions and what you want.