Quote:Do you even read the arguments? Apo has refuted your notion quite a few times. That you still believe it to stand is a testament to your own ignorance.
Objections to a fact are not a refutation. Again its a foregone conclusion that my adversaries in this debate will always claim my facts and arguments are 'refuted'.
Good I have reduced you to incoherent babbling and proposing a situation that can't be articulated or for which there is no example you can present. Oh an for which you can't submit any facts that support your far flung hypothesis. But please do try.
Quote:Try what? Argue against your nonsensical ideas or acknowledge your idiotic dichotomy?
Its the notion that a series of events or a phenomena could be neither the result of plan or happenstance that is nonsensical. If we were debating before an impartial audience your belief would get a laugh. But of course none of your fellow atheists will call you out on such a absurd claim.
Exactly, its your contention that mindless, lifeless forces without plan, design or knowledge or desire caused something to exist totally unlike itself, life and mind.
Quote:That much is known to be true.
No, its assumed to be true. Moreover you just contradicted your contention that our existence and that of the universe was neither by happenstance or plan.
Quote:Okay, I'm about to blow your tiny fucking mind: your proposed claim is a hypothetical too, by your own model. You are making an assumption- that life can only exist within a narrow band- as the hinge of your argument, yet you've been unable to prove the exclusivity of this. Which would be fine, if you then accepted the possibility that other conditions could lead to other forms of life. But you're dismissing those, which means one of two things: either you have some evidence to show that your position is the only correct one and ours cannot be, or you're an arrogant dick who thinks dismissing a claim counts as refuting it.
No more arrogant than the rather small dicks I'm arguing against. My argument is based on the facts known to be true. You can claim all you want that I need to prove that life can't exist under some other conditions but your mistaken. Until there is evidence life does in fact exist under other conditions it doesn't need to be considered.
I'm done with this thread. When I have time I will start a new thread.