(November 12, 2009 at 3:24 pm)rjh4 Wrote: Your first paragraph uses "kind" in an entirely different way than I was using it.How so? Please explain what you mean by the word "kind" then.
(November 12, 2009 at 3:24 pm)rjh4 Wrote: The rest is an extrapolation/interpretation from what we observe to something we don't and would be based on one's presuppositions. As I stated in another thread, where such an extrapolation conflicts with the Bible, I will take the Bible.Not at all. The observations come in various forms. If you mean that we have never seen the evolution of a single cell into a human, then obviously this is true, since we haven't been around (objectively) for 4 billion years. However what was recorded was the fossil record, which quite clearly shows the transition between various forms of organism, to the point that you can accurately trace back all the changes and see that we indeed did come from ape-like hominds, and they in turn came from smaller monkey/lemur like creatures, and they came from...etc etc.
Your last sentence is interesting, and reveals your close-mindedness very well. It says simply "you can show me all the evidence in the world of evolution, you could even build a time machine and take me back and make me watch it, but since it contradicts my biblical teaching, and therefore my faith, I will always find a way to reject it". If this is truly your attitude, I have no further wishes to discuss this with you, as you aren't in the least bit interested in discussing it properly. If you showed me evidence of creationism, I'd accept it. It's evidence after all, and I accept evidence. Unfortunately for the creationism position, all evidence simply points in the other direction; it's how the theory of evolution started, how it became accepted by science (even theistic scientists).
Quote:Still waiting for some currently observable fact that is necessarily inconsistent with Biblical creation.No you aren't. You've just said that you ignore such facts and choose the Bible over them. Don't ask us for evidence when (a) we've already given it, and there is plenty of it in these forums and elsewhere online anyway, and (b) you have no interest in even considering it.
