Quote:I wasn't talking to you but...I've taken account of your feelings! I'll pray for you. I think you have many "good" Christian attributes including LOVE for others.... You just need to have some love for God, and yourself.
...btw, I won't be changing my avatar of MT...she is still miles away better than me or anyone I know!
Ron
Forgive me for callin you a Miss, mister Ron. You were speaking to me because your sweeping generalizations about athiests, included me too. Pray for me if you wish. Seems like a waste of your time to me but hey. And for the record, I do love myself more now than before. Losing an affectation of love from an unknown unseen unheard entity did not cause my self worth to go down. Moreover, it went up. Because no one's will is more important than mine. I lived a lifetime being held down by my own beliefs on women, finances, health, happiness, whom I should marry, and my families representations of the bibe on how to live ones life. I didn't have an ounce of self-confidence until I freed myself of it, by freeing myself of this idea of the authority that sets everything in that sociality in motion. My confidence is built back up every day because life now isn't clouded in rules that I had to abide by in fear of eternal damnation. If my will says who gives a flying hoot if some guy wants to marry another guy: I don't have any fictitious reasoning holding me back from doing what's right. I feel good about myself because I get to actually do what is right by those around me--not for a reward, after life but a reward on this earth in my own heart. I don't have to temper my own beliefs on a matter with the age old ones of the bible, most of which I disagreed with anyways. I support the religious in my life, if that's what makes them happy than so be it. But you best believe that if the church they give their tithes to turned out to have pedophiles at every priory or if their missionaries were hoarding offerings and not using them for what they were meant to be used for: they would not continue supporting such an institution, nor would they display proudly the pictures of these people proudly without remorse or responsibility.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.