RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
March 16, 2013 at 5:40 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2013 at 5:41 am by catfish.)
(March 16, 2013 at 5:30 am)Esquilax Wrote:(March 16, 2013 at 5:22 am)catfish Wrote: What species is a human fetus? Answer the question honestly if you can.
It's human, you dolt. It has human DNA, but that doesn't make it a person. It doesn't even make it an actual human, since not all things that have human DNA are humans; your hair is genetically human, but your hair is not a human.
Kichi's point was never that the fetus magically became a fish, just that physically it has much more in common with those species at that point in development. Given the criteria most rational people use to determine humanity- which you obviously don't use, given that genetic material is all you need to confer human status to a thing- then the fetus would not be human by those criteria.
See, generally speaking, biology wants exactness from its definitions, and your definition of a human- "a human is something with human DNA"- is not only vague, it's a tautology. So you either need to amend your fucking definition, in which case you're in trouble, or you need to keep insisting on the inaccurate one, in which case the argument is over because you're demonstrably wrong.
No, stop misrepresenting my position with your own biases.
A "human" is an individual lifeform that is formed from the fetilization of sperm and egg. That original single cell has it's own unique DNA, so it's nothing like a hair, toenail, sperm or egg and it sure as Hades isn't a fish... It's an individual human life with the same potential capacity as every other human who has survived through all stages of development.
You guys need to admit this basic fact or prove it otherwise. After you guys accept modern science and basic facts, we can discuss at what point it becomes immoral to whack a fetus.
