RE: Please help me with Banu Qurayza story
March 16, 2013 at 10:05 am
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2013 at 10:24 am by Meylis Delano Lawrence.)
(March 16, 2013 at 8:04 am)Dawud Wrote: According to the experts it was the Qurayza's own "Mosaic Law"
According to the evidenceavailable this punishment differs from Muslim law and the punishment for treason, according t the Qurayza's own law was "accepted" by them.
This is what the evidence shows - as above.
Anyone wanting to stick to the evidence can see this - following other stories than the evidence is a dangerous fantasy.
Seriously - you don't need to accept that Islam is the best way of life given by God (though it is) but you don't also need to adopt previous Christian prejudice to back up your atheist world view...
KichigaiNeko: I'm glad you will never perpetuate this silly idea that the Qurayza incident was an anti-semitic attack!
When I say silly - I mean non-evidential
Well, what can I say.Talking to you is like talking to a wall since you're like a zombie - you see what you want to see. Actually, you resemble my twin. Honestly though, you have a disease. I call it a religion disease. You're like under hypnosis, but you can also eat, drink, shit, fuck etc.
First of all there wasn't one tribe, there were other tribes that were brutally murdered by muslims; all of which are in quran and hadiths. When it comes to Banu Quraysa, the guy you're talking about is Sa'd who was jewish convert to Islam who was seriously injured in the battle and who also wanted a revenge. Muhammad (shit be upon him) knew this and let Sa'd decide what to do with a tribe. Sa'd decision was to murder men who didn't have pubic hair and to sell the rest of the people in exchange for weapons. Muhammad replied saying that the decision was similar to allah's (god's) and said that he got a message from God approving it which is in quran. Just read sura 33 in quran and hadiths that I sent you.
Secondly, are you really telling me that entire jewish tribes agreed to be murdered and raped because it was in accordance with a jewish law. Please man, be realistic.
(March 16, 2013 at 7:57 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I think what is missing here Meylis is the fact that the abrahamic religions (all three of them) were made from the simple ramblings of poor uneducated & illiterate desert people with what we now understand to be mental health issues...aka they were nuts!
The grovelling and murder that has eschewed in the name of the deities from these poor unfortunates is STILL being cleaned up 2000 years after the supposed fact.
facts:
islam murdered. blamed their deity for it, so did the judeans and christians.
They are ALL still at it 1500 years later!! mental illness or WTF?
My hypothesis is very similar to yours. For a long time I couldn''t understand what Muhammad's motives were. But you're right he definately had a mental illness. The guy attempted a suicide, had 13 wives, 4 sex slaves, possibly had hallucianations, married a 9 year old and had sex with her, lied constantly, thought was above the law, ordered slaughtering of thousands ... I'm actually compiling a list of possible mental illnesses he may have had:
. Shizotypal Disorder with dellusional, narcisisstic features and OCD
. Narcisisstic Personality disorder combroid with other disorders including OCD, charlatan
. Bipolar Disorder with Antisocial features ( due to the hypersexuality, pedophilia, marriage to an older woman etc ). No offence to BDs, every BD is differenct.
. Antisocial Personality disorder combroid with other disorders including OCD. ( manipulative tactics to the point that I consider him as an emotional vampire, mass killings, racissm, obsession with power and beauty, hypersexuality, being above the law just to name the few.
. Severe anxiety to the point that he may have had problems with external stimuly. I've even heard one of his best friends (I think it was Abubakr, not sure) would close his ears to avoid sound when walking in the market. He may have had similar thing himself sicne he despised music.
(March 16, 2013 at 8:04 am)Dawud Wrote: According to the experts it was the Qurayza's own "Mosaic Law"
What "experts"? Are talking about those baboons on tv that say women are to blame for rape?
The fact is most respected anthropologists, scientists, historians, people of literature and even regular people say that is was a horrible genocide. So don't make stuff up. "Experts" lol
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