(March 17, 2013 at 9:48 am)Esquilax Wrote:I don't know if you're intentionally doing this or what... At conception, the sperm and egg combine to create a new human lifeform. Basic biology, I'm not "defining" it, science is. It is not equivelant to a hair, a sperm, an egg or a fucking fish. It's human and has it's own unique human DNA.(March 17, 2013 at 9:41 am)catfish Wrote: So then, do you agree that a zygot/embryo is an individual human lifeform that starts at conception? IOW, is conception the start of life or not? (you claimed "no" earlier)
It depends on how you're defining it, really. The embryo would be cellular life, but that doesn't tell us anything useful, because the sperm and the egg that originally conceived it were that too.
(March 17, 2013 at 9:48 am)Esquilax Wrote: Even if we restrict ourselves to human life, we still have two definitions that work. The body starts being alive at a certain point, before the actual person that will inhabit it begins to exist, really. But even that body is still growing into its human characteristics, having more in common with fish than humans at certain stages, like Kichi pointed out earlier.Again, you're assigning adjectives to something which you use to deny what you wrote below. You're concerned with appearances to establish species classification. The "body" starts as a single cell and is "alive" at conception. This is basic biology man, embrace it.
(March 17, 2013 at 9:48 am)Esquilax Wrote: So... no, I'd say that human life doesn't begin at conception, even if life itself does by certain metrics. It's the kind of topic that really does need specificity.
And this is what is funny. You say this and think you can be right?
If those "certain metrics" say that life itself starts, WHAT FUCKING SPECIES IS IT?!?!?!
