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Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion...
According to Physisicst, Dr. Lawrence Krauss concerning making moral decisions, which will get to the point here:

Dr. Lawrence Krauss Wrote:Let me give you in the last two slides some examples. Stem cells are a big issue, certo? And there're big debate But there're certain facts that if you don't understand them you cannot make sensible moral decisions. Blastocysts, which are the things people work with, are not fully functionig embryos. Are not gonna turn into human beings. The embryos destroyed in stem cell research are not gonna be... are gonna be destroyed anyway. They're not gonna be used for reproduction. They are largely donated for research purpuses, they're in storage, and they're just gonna be thrown away.

And finally, one of the big misconceptions that the Catholic Church suffers under is that there's a moment of conception.

There is no moment of conception.

I have been gone to in-vitro fetilization clinics. I was amazed to see the incredible number of steps, starting from what we call the fertilization process to a fully functioning embryo, and every single one of them is as important as the one before. There's no moment where you can see... where you can suddenly define a living being there. It's a continuous process. It's not a moment.

While those cells are coming together and transitioning, and skiping from one form to the next, it is a biological form that requires nurturing in order to continue it's journy from one classification to the next. The Church would have you believe that it is alive as a small cluster of cells. A new law in the USA calls it a human once there is a heartbeat, which is in 40 days or so. Theology and feelings are trying to define a scientific classification where none objectively exists.

Catfish has the opinion of the Church, that something the size of spit is a a person.

Esquilax holds that that it is not a person until it is a human, and has defined that ad nauseum.

Neither are going to agree. And this is a macrocosm of what the debates are in the political world.
“I've done everything the Bible says — even the stuff that contradicts the other stuff!"— Ned Flanders
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Atheists, the death penalty and abortion... - by Tiberius - March 10, 2013 at 10:36 am
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion... - by Joel - March 15, 2013 at 9:25 am
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion... - by Joel - March 16, 2013 at 11:47 am
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion... - by EGross - March 17, 2013 at 2:20 pm
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion... - by smax - March 18, 2013 at 4:29 am
RE: Atheists, the death penalty and abortion... - by Joel - March 18, 2013 at 10:51 am

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