RE: Question for the Former Theists
March 22, 2013 at 9:07 pm
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2013 at 9:07 pm by Mystical.)
Wow German, I mean wow. Your history is tragic to say the least.
I lost my faith in there being a god the moment I almost died.
But, there's one thing that rode on my mind the entire time I was a theist, which has been 95% of my life.
Suicide.
I couldn't rectify the thought that my dear family members were in hell eternally for A. Being psychologically unstable and B. not wanting to be a burden to others. and C. not wanting to end life with the terrible diagnosis of cancer.
For the longest time I deluded myself into believing that one day I could go save them from hell, but in the end I concluded that the god I believed in wouldn't actually send them to hell. But I had no reason to believe that. The bible says the opposite.
This line of thinking lead me to the conclusion that either what god says is not so, or what he says is so and thus is so unjust I can't fathom a being of that magnitude of hypocrisy. The more life showed itself, the crueler it got, the more I realized that if he loved us like he did, we wouldn't be here as we are.
Which then lead to questioning why he set things up as he did, and I realized that it is indeed his fault that satan exists, that we exist and "fell", and then I read the bible without blinders on. Without concessions included for him in doing what he did. And I realized that those who were following god didn't know the god they were following, or they wouldn't follow him.
I lost my faith in there being a god the moment I almost died.
But, there's one thing that rode on my mind the entire time I was a theist, which has been 95% of my life.
Suicide.
I couldn't rectify the thought that my dear family members were in hell eternally for A. Being psychologically unstable and B. not wanting to be a burden to others. and C. not wanting to end life with the terrible diagnosis of cancer.
For the longest time I deluded myself into believing that one day I could go save them from hell, but in the end I concluded that the god I believed in wouldn't actually send them to hell. But I had no reason to believe that. The bible says the opposite.
This line of thinking lead me to the conclusion that either what god says is not so, or what he says is so and thus is so unjust I can't fathom a being of that magnitude of hypocrisy. The more life showed itself, the crueler it got, the more I realized that if he loved us like he did, we wouldn't be here as we are.
Which then lead to questioning why he set things up as he did, and I realized that it is indeed his fault that satan exists, that we exist and "fell", and then I read the bible without blinders on. Without concessions included for him in doing what he did. And I realized that those who were following god didn't know the god they were following, or they wouldn't follow him.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
