Science and religion

[jstrodel]

The fact that science cannot prove something does not mean that its existence cannot be proven some other way.

Nobody has proven it in any other way, either.

That is your belief. You have probably read less than 300 pages of natural theology in your life. You have probably never been to a monastery. You probably have never done a serious fast in your life.

Do you know who Duns Scotus is? Probably not. A bunch of people the other day were surprised when they learned that "OCCAMS RAZOR" actually comes from a guy by the name of William of Occam, who was a Christian and scholastic theologian.

0% of the atheists on this message board have studied William of Occams original writings, but 97% of them have said something like "OCCAM'S RAZOR PROVES THAT GOD DOESN'T EXIST YOU IDIOT"

It is true that God's existence cannot be proven by those that do not take theology seriously, just as it is true that the truths of mathematics cannot be proven by those who skip math classes to smoke weed.

Alaisdair MacIntyre found the Thomistic philosophy so compelling that he left his position as a Marxist academic and became a Catholic. That is your opinion that the arguments for the existence of God don't work. Alaisdair MacIntyre is one of the most widely respected philosophers alive today. Many people find the arguments for God's existence persuasive.

Of course MacIntyre, unlike most of the people who post here, did not read a 100 page summary of Thomas Aquinas, he actually read Aquinas and as well, studied the entire scholastic tradition. People on this message board are content to simply read and dissect one syllogism at a time and point out that it doesn't conclusively prove that God exists, not realizing that that isn't really the way that it works. If you want to study natural theology, then study it. If you want to pretend like you have refuted the arguments, but have no serious acquaintance with them, you have about as solid evidence that they are false as you do doing reasoning about anything else using passages that are high school level, under 300 word samples.